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this hope radio for the masses headliner

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between July 8 1947 the Army Air Force

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found and is now in the possession of

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the I would change the game

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I occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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two black with your host Jimmy church on

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the game-changer radio network and kg RA

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your health too

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today is Monday October 23rd 296 days

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into the new year just 69 days left we

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are live from a bunker somewhere in

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downtown Burbank California and I would

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like to welcome everybody listening all

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around the world all across the United

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States hither and thither to and fro

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back and forth up and down east and west

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north and south far and near

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this is fade to black for kjc are the

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game changer Network @kg ra the planet's

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i'm your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing it is

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Monday I am in the chair after the week

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last week in the weekend that I've had I

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need this chair right now so good to be

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back with you

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what a great week we've got lined up

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here on fader block tonight that's right

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very special guest and back with us the

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one and only dr. Robert Schoch

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is here oh man

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always great when he's on the show he's

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one of the best professor at Boston

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University tenured and tonight we're

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gonna talk about the fourth pyramid the

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second Sphinx we're gonna talk about

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Giza we're gonna talk about cosmic

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interference with our history we're

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gonna do all of that tonight

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with Robert Schoch and he is you know

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out of out of everybody in academia and

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also throughout our research community

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to have somebody of his stature come in

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and say the world is not what it seems

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and here is the proof he is in our

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corner all right and we always have

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dynamic conversations with him I did a

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picture it's up on I think it's on our

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Facebook page but I posted a picture of

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Robert taking a picture of me taking a

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picture of him it was one of those

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moments in time it's an amazing picture

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so go and I and I was talking to him

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earlier today I said dude man huh

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where's the picture that you took of me

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of me

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taking a picture of you we've got to get

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those up side-by-side because it was a

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four-day period I kept turning around

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and dr. Schaack is taking pictures of it

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so I would turn around and take it I

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would bust him taking pictures right and

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totally cool so I posted that picture

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today you can go and and check it out

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I'm sure you guys are gonna get this up

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on Twitter here very quickly and I will

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retweet it once it's up there it's

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pretty cool so that's tonight tomorrow

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undisclosed he is not only New York

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Times but a worldwide best-selling

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author his books like Meg are very very

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good he's one of the best but his newest

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book undisclosed is a novel on us about

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our community about zero-point energy

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about UFOs and disclosure and pilots in

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the military and the Pentagon and the

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white it's all in there so we're gonna

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discuss that tomorrow night Wednesday

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night we have Michaela Sheldon here

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we've got to do one of those open your

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mind become awakened shows and we do

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on fade to black but Thursday night is

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our fourth annual Halloween special with

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Shaw the Loon which now as you know this

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calls on Thursday night we shot a loon

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which she will read your fortune your

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future something about you in 60 seconds

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phone calls that night so the phone

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long just stay on the phones we will get

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everybody in what we'll try to all right

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like we do every year so it's gonna be a

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great show what a great week right right

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here on fade to black

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church radio.com alright in a few

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minutes in just a few minutes I want to

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welcome and I want you to welcome our

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new sponsor Daniel Brigman of new mana

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is gonna join us and yes new mana

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knows it but new manna was very gracious

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gonna find out where those recipes come

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from we'll do all of that tonight in a

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autographed t-shirts I've been signing

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contact John what what is that you are

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not online okay alright I'm not sure oh

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she's referring to Twitter okay I get it

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Rita's is texting me right now subscribe

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would like to welcome and introduce to

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you Daniel Brigman of new mana Daniel

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welcome to the show how are you I'm

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doing very well and it's very nice to be

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with you and your audience fantastic man

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you know thank you for all of your

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support and and what new manna does you

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know for the world and it's just so

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funny when I when I talked about my

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little experience with my wife right

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where she said you know you know if

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something happens we were having at that

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time Daniel we had fires right in our

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neighborhood here in Burbank the city's

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burning down we had hurricanes going on

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in earthquakes you know down in Mexico

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and you know Houston and and Florida it

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was just nuts there for for about a

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month and Rita turned to me and she said

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you know are we ready to go if something

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happens and we were not and so now we

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are today I feel pretty good about

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myself not only with new mana but you

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know the other things like glow sticks

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and flashlights and batteries and things

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that you know you don't really think

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about what made you put new manna

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together what was the vision behind new

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manna well I drew up I spent a lot of

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time with my grandparents I don't know

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your audience party has similar you know

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giving you feel for them both my

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grandparents grew up in the depression

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and if you're around people like that

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they kind of pass around this is natural

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ethic to be prepared to have more than

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you need to just store kind of like the

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ant and the grasshopper kind of things

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so that kind of stuck with me as I got

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married I started having children or

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thinking about having children just the

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idea just kind of the same exercise you

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went through

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your wife hey we're not prepared here

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there's a fire I went through with my

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wife and it's like hey what're we gonna

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do so we began to look at their four

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different products again and frankly we

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were just disappointed what was out

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there they're full of chemicals they

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didn't taste all that good I didn't want

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to eat them I certainly wouldn't want to

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feed them to any children that we had in

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the future so we just decided to start

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their own I mean that's really how Amana

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was born now

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okay what's the secret here all right

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we'll get to the technical stuff but the

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taste man I mean there are some recipes

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going on where do where do the recipes

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come from well the secret is I like to

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and so we worked on it until it tastes

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good you know yeah formulators and we

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say hey we we want to kind of make a

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recipe kinda like this is what we're

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thinking we start somewhere and then we

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just refine it hey yeah go back do this

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put a little more garlic in it what have

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you and then we just go to Iowa know it

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so you know I like it my wife liked it

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and now our children especially we

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tested on them they're kind of the

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guinea pigs of this that's really it's

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that it's it's really that simple jury

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you know you know what I did to my

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daughter so check this out and I'm not

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making this up give me 30 seconds I got

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to tell you the story so I'm making the

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alfredo pasta right making she comes

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home from school she's in college she

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comes home she's like man it smells

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pretty good and and Rita had told her on

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the way home you know okay we're making

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homemade you know Alfredo so that's her

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favorite thing right so it was our way

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to get her to come home after school

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instead of going out for coffee with her

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friends you know that kind of thing

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anyway she comes home and I'm stirring

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you know the pot in the kitchen I said

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you know you know taste it because how

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this is really you know she doesn't know

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it's new manna right she ate the life

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out of that stuff and and and it's

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really really that good and and I don't

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want the audience to think you know

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Jimmy's just saying this

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look it is ridden believe the habanero

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chili

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right you know and I was like there's

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some recipes going on here now this is

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let's talk about some specifics 25 year

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shelf life what are we looking at there

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a genuine 25 years yes absolutely

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there's three things that will kill any

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foods you're putting food in your pantry

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you know what the things that kills it

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oxygen heat temperature fluctuation so

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all those things is the way you package

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it and the ingredients mix together

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there's a science of being greedy --nt

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stew gether to be stable and have

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quality ingredients without using

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chemicals and then the packaging itself

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so as long as you store it in a cool dry

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place now that a garage would be the

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worst place because of the temperature

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fluctuation but you know start in your

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basement your house whatever it's gonna

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be fine it's the last year it's going to

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be there 10 20 probably even 30 years as

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long as you store it well it will be

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there no GMOs I want to make that very

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clear no GMOs very important to us we

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you know there's a lot of science and

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people are back and forth on that I am

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very suspect of genetically modified

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foods and I don't want to eat it and I

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don't want my children to as much as I

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can and I certainly don't want it in the

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emergency food I don't want to survive

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some disaster what have you and then had

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my food kill me I mean it's that simple

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well you know the thing is about GMOs

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Daniel and I know that you're aware of

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this our audience certainly is but

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you're messing with Mother Nature right

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we got here without GMOs

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what what do you do it we have no idea

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what the the the ramifications are 20

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years from now 30 years from now about

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changing wheat or or corn or anything

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that is genetically modified it could

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see we're talking about your eating

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altered DNA right that's what you read

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absolutely absolutely

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yeah so why would I want to do that it

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freaks me how it completely freaks me

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out

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you also have I want to jump into a

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couple of other things but you also have

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an organic alternative to as well we

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have a bucket that's completely organic

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the whole thing we jump through believe

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me it was very difficult

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call to get that certified completely

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organic everything in it to take it into

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a higher level of ingredients quality

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cleanliness a regular buckets are

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gmo-free very good that's our bestseller

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the family pack is a best seller easy to

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use simple and a lot of variety for

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people and also now we need proteins

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you know you love to eat too so what are

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your solutions for that well most of the

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meals are just like you said stuff like

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sweet habanero chili which either beans

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got protein they're all vegetarian

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because you know somebody in their

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family they may not like me never made

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then they may like me you know one one

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may one may not so we put all the meals

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vegetarian and then you we have buckets

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full of freeze-dried meat so we have

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organic chicken we have beef we have

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regular crumble chicken chicken chunks

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that are freeze-dried so you can add

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them to the meals or you cannot whatever

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is easiest for you and your families you

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decide but it gives you a high very high

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source of protein we also have powdered

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milk organic powdered milk with another

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very good source of protein now when I

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was a kid and I know you're gonna laugh

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at this you were scared of powdered milk

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[Laughter]

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you know people ask me all the time

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about that I said look that organic milk

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you you mix it as it says and you put in

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the refrigerator you'll be--you'll think

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it's better than the milk you buy at the

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store yeah I promise you it's very very

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good

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that red and white box when I was a kid

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I was scared of that yeah that powdered

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milk box well back to the freeze-dried

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chicken and and the meat products when

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you are prepping the food do you have to

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prep those separate or can you just put

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that in the habanero chili or the pasta

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or whatever you're cooking yes you did

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doing two separate or together you know

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like I said depending on your family you

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could do it either way now for you I'm

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gonna tell you what my favorites are

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what I know that you've got one that

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stands out for you what what's the one

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that you're most proud of the

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the recipe there's probably I mean

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honestly there's probably six of them

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that I just really love I like all of

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them or I wouldn't sell them I like all

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of them six of them I love but my

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absolute favorite is well I've sweet

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habanero chili and pasta primavera my

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two favorites yeah yeah those are my two

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favorites okay no wait a minute we

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didn't mention the mac and cheese so

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we're gonna come back to the mac and

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cheese the the pasta primavera I I make

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the best red sauce in the world nobody

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makes a better red sauce than a Jimmy

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Church and that's it don't save the

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email everybody okay

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which is the truth so I needed to test

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that first how how do you pull that off

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I mean it seriously is it so the whole

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thing is cooked and then I don't know

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how do you know no I'm mystified it's

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math it's magic it is magic cauldron at

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midnight under full moon right all the

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products in there all the ingredients

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that are in the meals are either

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freeze-dried or dehydrated and then

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there's a you know there's one thing to

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make a meal it tastes good

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now too you got to make it to be able to

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store along to be able to sit in the

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packaging and to be able to keep its

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freshness and vitality so that you know

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10 years from now you can open it and

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you're gonna get a quality product so

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it's it's a trial and error there's a

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lot of science to it and to make it but

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basically please drive dehydrated

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ingredients that are stable that also

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mix together well that's that's the

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basic core of it now and now we're gonna

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talk about some other stuff but mac and

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cheese in the United States if you are

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going to have a mac and cheese product

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you have to bring your a-game right

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that'll make a brake company absolutely

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absolutely

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so all right just indulge me what's up

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with the mac and cheese whose recipe is

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that it's you know basically my

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children's to be honest with you because

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it's been

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do you like it yeah we like it okay it's

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good it must be good the children

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they're smiling and they're asking for

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more so it's that's really it's their

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recipe more than anybody's yeah the mac

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and cheese is spot-on

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I'm telling telling that new manna has

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got it dialed it's not like what I grew

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up with my dad was in the military right

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so when we went camping you know what we

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had MREs oh yeah mari and and those it's

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a unique part of my childhood well at

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that we'll let that go

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this isn't it this is not that is it I

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mean this you guys have taken it to a

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whole nother level this is something

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that you're not embarrassed by and in if

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it's an emergency at least you guys are

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gonna eat really really well and that

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part of the game is removed you guys are

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going to be happy well you hit the low

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on the head I think before I don't see

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any reason why anybody in America who

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doesn't you know have people responsible

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for the family themselves whatever would

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not have either our food or something

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like it in their house I see no reason

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and with new manna the food is good

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enough quality that you know the put you

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invest in stock you know invest in

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silver and gold you might we put money

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in the bank well you know the place of

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food is going up so at worst case

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scenario the food is good enough quality

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that you can eat it later and as the

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price of food goes up you just paid

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yourself a dividend so it's a no-lose

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investment this is a no-lose investment

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a really quality product that if you

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need it and you have it you're really

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glad if you need it and you don't have

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it oh my goodness are you are you in

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trouble and now the the other part of

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this is as you know we've discussed this

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and our audience certainly knows this

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our sponsors are part of our family

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right our audience is a family

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everything that we do is is a fan I want

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my audience to know exactly how I feel

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and how our sponsors feel about not only

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us but our audience and that's what's

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most important

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but for new manna we're talking about

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family-owned made in the USA

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I mean first and foremost that is out

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front isn't it

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absolute is very important for us and

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for our family and for for your

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confidence and our consumers confidence

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and products made in America are better

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especially food products we don't get

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ingredients from China we we look for

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good quality ingredients and we you know

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we're a family-run family-owned family

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supported business it's that simple the

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other day you know it's funny that you

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mentioned that the other day Rita and I

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were buying literally buying snacks for

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our dogs right and what are you doing

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and I said a marito

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I want to know where these are made

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right so China right back on the Shelf

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China China I need yeah you know and

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it's it's important and if I do that for

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for my family I'm gonna do that for my

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other extended family you know my pets

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it's what I'll do and so I want to thank

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you for that part of it now let's talk

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about and that's I mean it's just very

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important for our audience and and and

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how we feel and for the special that

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you've got going for the fate or not so

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let's talk about that for a second this

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was your idea

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by the way I want you to back me up on

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this Daniel when we were first talking

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about this it was you that said what can

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we do for the fate or not I've got this

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idea I've got this idea I've got this

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idea and these were your ideas and I

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want to thank you for that I love

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working with a you know usually it's

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companies that we work with but this is

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a radio show it's a program it's a

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family it's a it's a it's a movement and

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it's even more exciting because they

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have their own unique ways about them

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they have their own bones about them and

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to be you know it's kinda like nanano

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you where we come from so we'd like to

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share our family our closest with your

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family it's really exciting so we wanted

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that what kind of time can we do what

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Daniel Brigman again new manna the

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tonight dr. Robert Schoch we are going

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Robert is here I'm your host Jimmy

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hi this is Rob Reiner from anvil and

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all right welcome back beta block

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I want to thank Daniel Brickman of new

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mana for coming in here very very cool

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thank you so much the new mana banners

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over it Jimmy Trudeau calm and well it

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Steve Alton is gonna be here we're gonna

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discuss his new book undisclosed

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Halloween special with Shaw the Loon

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which very packed week here on fade to

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black I'm you know Stu meters tonight

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dr. Robert Schoch who is a full-time

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faculty member at the College of general

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studies at Boston University since 1984

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here miss PhD in geology and geophysics

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at Yale his MS and M fell in in geology

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and geophysics from Yale as well as his

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degrees in anthropology a BA and geology

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BS from George Washington University in

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the early 1990s as we all know dr.

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Schaack along with John Anthony West

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recast the date of the Great Sphinx of

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Egypt from around 2600 BC all the way

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back to somewhere in the neighborhood of

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10,500 BC by demonstrating that the

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monument had been heavily eroded by

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water despite the fact that its location

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on the edge of the Sahara had endured

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hyper-arid climactic conditions for the

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past five thousand years dr. Schaack

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revealed to the world that mankind's

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history is greater and older than

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previously believed he's still paying

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for that

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I'm sure tonight we will discuss his

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newest books for forgotten civilization

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the role of solar outburst in our past

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and future and origins of the Sphinx

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celestial guardian of the pre of veronik

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civilization co-authored with the one

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and only Robert Bauval we're gonna have

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Robert on the show Robert Bauval in

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about two weeks everybody so get ready

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for that and the possibility of a fourth

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black pyramid and a second Sphinx and

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other stuff on the Giza Plateau and I

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would like to welcome back to fade to

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black the one and only and our good

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friend dr. Robert Schoch

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dr. Shaw good evening how are

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my friend good evening thank you very

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much oh man it's always great to hear

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your voice man thank you you know today

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I'm gonna start off with this it's

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really funny one of the pictures that

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you have you've seen it many times it's

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you with the Sphinx in the background

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right with the face right and I swear I

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swear Robert it looks like you're the

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face on the Sphinx if you if you squid

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yeah yeah if you squint just a little

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bit it's not the headdress it's the

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flowing locks now on the Sphinx go and

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take a look it just let your imagination

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go just a little bit but it was just

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really funny how it hit me so how are

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you how's Cady have you guys been around

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the world are you back are you teaching

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teaching we've been traveling but we're

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back Katie and I are both very well

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thank you

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are you teaching are you back in school

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I'm back in teaching yeah exactly it's

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the new semester started in September

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and it's been really busy ever since I

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want to say it seems like two days ago

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but I realized we're end of our October

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already do your students I have to ask

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you this I don't know if I ever have do

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your students know that you're a

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rockstar in our world more more tuned

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into that than others it's interesting

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even this semester I had a couple come

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up and asked me if I was the one you

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know involved with the Sphinx that type

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of things right so they are aware

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they're him yeah some of them are aware

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and then I what's even just as

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interesting perhaps is I think it was

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even this semester that relevant old me

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Oh her mother or something is reading

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one of my books so she was aware of me

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that way and I said well you should read

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too

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yeah that kind of hurts actually I don't

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think it was met the wrong way yeah you

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know but the problem is that generation

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and I'm talking undergraduate so their

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late teens early 20s they do not read

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books

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way our generation does yeah I did

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unless they did I want to say does yeah

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does does I so do you do I'm not saying

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do you does do you do you do the e-book

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and and make sure that everything is

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online because that's the way this

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generation is the way the generation

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goes and so both forgotten civilization

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and origins of the Sphinx can be read

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the e-book I've never read them be eBook

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I don't have copies of them the ebook

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but they can be ordered through Amazon

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or whatever as ebooks interestingly I've

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talked to my students about this and you

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know they load all the ebooks onto their

810
00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:16,630
readers or devices or phones or whatever

811
00:36:21,270 --> 00:36:18,880
but a number of them have told me that

812
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:21,280
when they really like a book they get

813
00:36:26,670 --> 00:36:23,770
the hard copy as well well I have the

814
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:26,680
analog version of origins of the Sphinx

815
00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:29,710
right here that's the one you flip

816
00:36:36,810 --> 00:36:33,510
through with your thumbs old school and

817
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:36,820
yeah I'm holding it up to the video

818
00:36:40,859 --> 00:36:39,130
cameras here in the studio for everybody

819
00:36:43,530 --> 00:36:40,869
out there that's watching and what's

820
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:43,540
really cool about the book which you

821
00:36:49,410 --> 00:36:45,760
don't see often enough you've got a

822
00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:49,420
really cool color section in the middle

823
00:36:55,260 --> 00:36:53,440
with glossy photographs you know I have

824
00:36:57,059 --> 00:36:55,270
to give credit here you know why we have

825
00:36:59,309 --> 00:36:57,069
a really cool color section in the

826
00:37:01,290 --> 00:36:59,319
middle with glossy photographs because

827
00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:01,300
Katie and for those that don't know

828
00:37:06,750 --> 00:37:04,000
katie is my wife you know that yes Katie

829
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:06,760
designed that it's it's just incredible

830
00:37:10,890 --> 00:37:08,890
and it you know thank you I'll pass it

831
00:37:13,530 --> 00:37:10,900
out to her the book is an incredible

832
00:37:14,670 --> 00:37:13,540
read and of course Robert Bauval now

833
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:14,680
before okay

834
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:18,970
before we move on last year of all six

835
00:37:25,020 --> 00:37:22,450
months ago we had a just an amazing

836
00:37:29,010 --> 00:37:25,030
panel together over eye contact in the

837
00:37:32,460 --> 00:37:29,020
desert and on that panel was a Graham

838
00:37:38,069 --> 00:37:32,470
Hancock of course Robert Bauval yourself

839
00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:38,079
Andrew Collins doctors JJ you know the

840
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:41,250
her talks were there their touch and but

841
00:37:47,620 --> 00:37:44,560
and it's in okar Laura Berger of course

842
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:47,630
right okay right yeah but John

843
00:37:51,820 --> 00:37:49,490
Anthony West was not there and we had a

844
00:37:54,430 --> 00:37:51,830
great tribute for him that night we had

845
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:54,440
the empty chair you know set aside for

846
00:38:00,460 --> 00:37:57,530
him he has done every contact in the

847
00:38:04,870 --> 00:38:00,470
desert with me and and so forth but he

848
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:04,880
was not there and when you have you know

849
00:38:09,970 --> 00:38:06,890
it was weird because when you have

850
00:38:12,910 --> 00:38:09,980
Bauval Hancock and you and of course

851
00:38:16,660 --> 00:38:12,920
John Anthony West the four of you tip

852
00:38:18,370 --> 00:38:16,670
this community upside down you guys did

853
00:38:21,460 --> 00:38:18,380
that and you've been working together

854
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:21,470
but he was not there and now we were

855
00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:23,570
missing one of the horsemen because I

856
00:38:28,450 --> 00:38:25,310
think you know we've been called the

857
00:38:29,890 --> 00:38:28,460
four horse but that's right and it was

858
00:38:32,740 --> 00:38:29,900
very sad it's very sad that he couldn't

859
00:38:35,620 --> 00:38:32,750
be there but I think your community I

860
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:35,630
think your listeners and I imagine that

861
00:38:40,590 --> 00:38:38,090
most of them know he's battling stage

862
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:40,600
four cancer he's in very very serious

863
00:38:46,030 --> 00:38:43,490
serious shape have you spoken to jaws

864
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:46,040
I've spoken to him within the last I

865
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:48,770
want to say two weeks or so because I

866
00:38:52,030 --> 00:38:50,210
don't want to disturb him too much or

867
00:38:55,630 --> 00:38:52,040
bug him too much but we keep in contact

868
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:55,640
and he is stable is that's the way I'll

869
00:39:00,640 --> 00:38:58,490
put it we hope for the best obviously

870
00:39:04,510 --> 00:39:00,650
but he's very weak I mean this is

871
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:04,520
serious stuff he did do you think and I

872
00:39:10,090 --> 00:39:07,250
hope that he does do you think he is

873
00:39:12,550 --> 00:39:10,100
aware of the support that he has in our

874
00:39:15,730 --> 00:39:12,560
community and how much circuit

875
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:15,740
absolutely how long did you talk to him

876
00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:17,810
and can you share anything with us yes

877
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:24,710
can you share us a Jah ISM no well

878
00:39:31,150 --> 00:39:27,110
honestly no because it was the last

879
00:39:34,180 --> 00:39:31,160
conversation was not very long he was

880
00:39:38,890 --> 00:39:34,190
his he was not his perky selfie he was

881
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:38,900
it was still him and it was more that he

882
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:41,930
was doing you know he's fighting this

883
00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:46,160
battle he is determined to get better

884
00:39:51,730 --> 00:39:48,800
he's determined to go back to Egypt at

885
00:39:54,970 --> 00:39:51,740
some point but he was very weak and we

886
00:39:57,220 --> 00:39:54,980
actually had to end it because he had to

887
00:39:59,080 --> 00:39:57,230
get some sleep well that's a Jah ISM

888
00:40:00,690 --> 00:39:59,090
right there because you know Eisen right

889
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:00,700
there that I mean you can't

890
00:40:04,829 --> 00:40:02,890
alone you can't get him off the phone

891
00:40:06,690 --> 00:40:04,839
you know he can't normally get him off

892
00:40:09,569 --> 00:40:06,700
the phone but something else in this I

893
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:09,579
guess ties it with charms as I've known

894
00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:16,089
him I don't know how long my close to 30

895
00:40:21,060 --> 00:40:17,440
years right right right

896
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:21,070
he and I have known each other and he

897
00:40:26,370 --> 00:40:23,410
you know he can be brutally honest and

898
00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:26,380
he's very straightforward and he was

899
00:40:30,750 --> 00:40:28,240
very straightforward about this that you

900
00:40:34,530 --> 00:40:30,760
know he he is fighting something very

901
00:40:37,410 --> 00:40:34,540
serious and it's not to be taken lightly

902
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:37,420
yeah for somebody you know and this is

903
00:40:42,780 --> 00:40:40,240
the thing for him to say that he needs

904
00:40:44,609 --> 00:40:42,790
his rest because let me tell you let me

905
00:40:47,460 --> 00:40:44,619
tell you something about cha something

906
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:47,470
that you know but the audience may not I

907
00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:51,010
have he's come up to me at 10 o'clock at

908
00:40:54,420 --> 00:40:51,310
night

909
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:54,430
right face to face going all right let's

910
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:01,359
go out of for dinner and drinks his ages

911
00:41:07,109 --> 00:41:05,440
is in bed already and he you know and so

912
00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:07,119
for him to say he needs his rest

913
00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:09,250
you know what he he needs his rest and

914
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:11,230
good for you needs his rest exactly and

915
00:41:14,099 --> 00:41:12,609
you're not going to deny him that when

916
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:14,109
he says that because he's not someone

917
00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:15,970
that says something like that lightly he

918
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:17,710
doesn't say that is the excuse be he's

919
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:23,970
never been that way but he he he's he's

920
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:26,710
pushing on he's I give him a lot of

921
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:30,250
credit and hopefully he will be able to

922
00:41:35,579 --> 00:41:32,410
get back because he still got a lot he

923
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:35,589
wants to do as far as writing things

924
00:41:41,130 --> 00:41:39,130
that he wants to do as far as his own

925
00:41:43,740 --> 00:41:41,140
work a number of things that he and I

926
00:41:46,250 --> 00:41:43,750
would like to do together as far as

927
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:46,260
books and papers that type of thing so

928
00:41:51,359 --> 00:41:49,810
now he's always I'm sure you heard this

929
00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:51,369
he would always talked about how he had

930
00:41:56,700 --> 00:41:54,609
to live to at least 120 yes so he still

931
00:41:58,740 --> 00:41:56,710
he's still working toward that I

932
00:42:02,130 --> 00:41:58,750
remember him telling a you know when he

933
00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:02,140
tells stories about Ibiza and he and and

934
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:05,200
he's and he laughs about it like Ibiza

935
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:10,770
almost did him in right

936
00:42:16,900 --> 00:42:14,250
and here we are in 2017 man and we're

937
00:42:19,250 --> 00:42:16,910
still fighting the good fight with yak

938
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:19,260
exactly exactly because I was back in

939
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:22,110
the 50s back in the 50s and for jaws to

940
00:42:27,050 --> 00:42:24,720
say Ibiza almost did me in it just makes

941
00:42:27,530 --> 00:42:27,060
you see it's like the scariest thing

942
00:42:31,010 --> 00:42:27,540
ever

943
00:42:33,940 --> 00:42:31,020
so now let's let's turn back the clocks

944
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:33,950
a little bit before we move forward when

945
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:37,440
when Charlton Heston and you and jaws

946
00:42:44,660 --> 00:42:41,210
and that thing aired in the Emmys and

947
00:42:48,770 --> 00:42:44,670
the best 1993 for those that don't know

948
00:42:51,020 --> 00:42:48,780
right 1993 sorry of these things so with

949
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:51,030
all of the and the backlash in the and

950
00:42:55,790 --> 00:42:53,520
the and the press and the torment and

951
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:55,800
the positivity you had everything going

952
00:43:00,350 --> 00:42:57,450
on at the same time right our

953
00:43:02,090 --> 00:43:00,360
community's propping you up the academia

954
00:43:04,609 --> 00:43:02,100
is pushing you down you guys are

955
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:04,619
fighting the good fight but now do you

956
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:09,090
feel here in 2017 going into 2018 do you

957
00:43:13,609 --> 00:43:11,610
feel vindicated do you feel like you you

958
00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:13,619
know that not only you were on the right

959
00:43:19,820 --> 00:43:17,430
side but you were right oh absolutely I

960
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:19,830
personally feel that way now do all my

961
00:43:26,090 --> 00:43:22,800
academic colleagues feel that way many

962
00:43:29,390 --> 00:43:26,100
of them are still trying to fight tooth

963
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:29,400
and nail as they say against it I mean

964
00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:33,690
they always die hard so some of them

965
00:43:38,030 --> 00:43:35,040
still have vested interest but

966
00:43:40,130 --> 00:43:38,040
personally I feel very very vindicated I

967
00:43:41,660 --> 00:43:40,140
am more confident I've said this a

968
00:43:44,060 --> 00:43:41,670
number of times when people ask me

969
00:43:47,210 --> 00:43:44,070
similar questions I feel more confident

970
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:47,220
now than I ever have as far as the age

971
00:43:51,710 --> 00:43:49,440
of the Sphinx pushing back the origins

972
00:43:54,740 --> 00:43:51,720
of civilization pushing back there was

973
00:43:56,990 --> 00:43:54,750
an earlier I called cycle civilization

974
00:44:01,160 --> 00:43:57,000
before the end of the last ice age going

975
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:01,170
back to at least 10,500 BC right yeah I

976
00:44:08,900 --> 00:44:05,970
I back in the early 90s I was confident

977
00:44:11,060 --> 00:44:08,910
with my research I wouldn't have gone

978
00:44:14,270 --> 00:44:11,070
out on a limb if I didn't think the data

979
00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:14,280
was good but now we have so much more

980
00:44:19,310 --> 00:44:16,710
including gobekli tepe of course right

981
00:44:21,859 --> 00:44:19,320
even if we did not have Quebec elite at

982
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:21,869
bay just the evidence on the Giza

983
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:23,760
Plateau itself and how it all fits

984
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:24,510
together

985
00:44:28,730 --> 00:44:26,160
which of course is what the law and I

986
00:44:33,109 --> 00:44:28,740
put together and origins of the Sphinx I

987
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:33,119
mean it's such a strong case in my

988
00:44:39,620 --> 00:44:36,570
assessment well I didn't refute it it's

989
00:44:41,570 --> 00:44:39,630
not it's not it has not been refuted I

990
00:44:44,060 --> 00:44:41,580
say that because I look at all the

991
00:44:46,430 --> 00:44:44,070
refutation suppose at refutations I've

992
00:44:48,970 --> 00:44:46,440
been thrown at me I look at them

993
00:44:51,620 --> 00:44:48,980
carefully I look at them critically I

994
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:51,630
went through a phase for a number of

995
00:44:57,950 --> 00:44:55,290
years in the 1990s where I would stay

996
00:45:01,010 --> 00:44:57,960
awake at night thinking you know what

997
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:01,020
mistake I might I have made what might I

998
00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:06,000
have overlooked what paper might come my

999
00:45:10,430 --> 00:45:09,119
way the next morning you know refuting

1000
00:45:13,190 --> 00:45:10,440
me and I wouldn't be able to deny the

1001
00:45:14,359 --> 00:45:13,200
refutation but I'm well past that now

1002
00:45:16,630 --> 00:45:14,369
because I think I've heard all the

1003
00:45:19,970 --> 00:45:16,640
arguments all the potential arguments

1004
00:45:21,650 --> 00:45:19,980
and well I think there's two waves that

1005
00:45:24,170 --> 00:45:21,660
are going on here two different fronts

1006
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:24,180
that are supporting you right now there

1007
00:45:30,620 --> 00:45:27,210
there are going to be those that are

1008
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:30,630
gonna stay against you just because it's

1009
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:33,570
like policy so I understood see they're

1010
00:45:37,130 --> 00:45:35,130
going to stay that way until they die

1011
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:37,140
right right so I can't do anything

1012
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:38,970
otherwise because if they do anything

1013
00:45:44,990 --> 00:45:41,609
otherwise they lose so much face they

1014
00:45:46,940 --> 00:45:45,000
lose so much reputation you don't stake

1015
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:46,950
your career on something and then all of

1016
00:45:52,609 --> 00:45:48,810
a sudden at the end of your career say

1017
00:45:55,940 --> 00:45:52,619
well too bad I'm sorry I was wrong shock

1018
00:45:58,130 --> 00:45:55,950
is right right work that way

1019
00:46:02,630 --> 00:45:58,140
unfortunately I mean I know academia as

1020
00:46:04,670 --> 00:46:02,640
well if not better than anyone because

1021
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:04,680
you are you know you work with the man

1022
00:46:07,490 --> 00:46:06,810
you really do you know you have to look

1023
00:46:09,830 --> 00:46:07,500
at it that way

1024
00:46:11,780 --> 00:46:09,840
so there but but I think there's two

1025
00:46:12,140 --> 00:46:11,790
things that are propping you up right

1026
00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:12,150
now

1027
00:46:18,740 --> 00:46:16,560
one is the geology and the scientific

1028
00:46:22,460 --> 00:46:18,750
right the scientific knowledge of

1029
00:46:24,140 --> 00:46:22,470
rainfall in in Egypt and the Sahara and

1030
00:46:27,050 --> 00:46:24,150
Giza so that that part of it is

1031
00:46:29,660 --> 00:46:27,060
solidifying itself but the other part

1032
00:46:33,650 --> 00:46:29,670
which I think is equally as dynamic is

1033
00:46:36,109 --> 00:46:33,660
the cosmology the astrology part of it

1034
00:46:37,740 --> 00:46:36,119
where it when Robert first brought that

1035
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:37,750
out

1036
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:40,560
it seemed like a stretch but today

1037
00:46:46,980 --> 00:46:43,770
science and astrology and astronomy are

1038
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:46,990
it's now supporting this more and more

1039
00:46:51,860 --> 00:46:48,970
and the two of them are starting to

1040
00:46:54,210 --> 00:46:51,870
merge and is solidifying the case

1041
00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:54,220
exactly and in fact that is one of the

1042
00:46:59,090 --> 00:46:56,110
points of origins of the Sphinx that

1043
00:47:03,210 --> 00:46:59,100
these two do go together hand in hand

1044
00:47:05,730 --> 00:47:03,220
and I think Robert Bauval you'll talked

1045
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:05,740
to him in a couple of weeks he would be

1046
00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:07,450
and I don't want put words his mouth I

1047
00:47:12,300 --> 00:47:09,310
think he's the first to admit that if

1048
00:47:15,330 --> 00:47:12,310
you have only the archeoastronomy you

1049
00:47:18,270 --> 00:47:15,340
don't know if that's simply pointing

1050
00:47:20,460 --> 00:47:18,280
back to a prior time yelled like like

1051
00:47:22,530 --> 00:47:20,470
the sign that says George Washington

1052
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:22,540
slept here but the sign is 200 years

1053
00:47:26,340 --> 00:47:24,490
later you don't know if it's pointing

1054
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:26,350
back to a period thousands of years

1055
00:47:33,060 --> 00:47:29,650
later or if there's really physical

1056
00:47:35,580 --> 00:47:33,070
remains going back to that period with

1057
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:35,590
the geology we know it's real physical

1058
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:37,690
remains and and that the two are

1059
00:47:42,540 --> 00:47:40,210
converging and they're exactly they're

1060
00:47:44,430 --> 00:47:42,550
converging what is telling you something

1061
00:47:46,860 --> 00:47:44,440
the other one is telling you something

1062
00:47:49,770 --> 00:47:46,870
and saying this is it this is really it

1063
00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:49,780
physically now not just a bunch of sign

1064
00:47:55,290 --> 00:47:52,510
saying well we our history goes back to

1065
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:55,300
that period now these cosmic events I

1066
00:48:02,040 --> 00:47:57,370
want to visit this before we get to the

1067
00:48:05,790 --> 00:48:02,050
top of the hour we have not only your

1068
00:48:08,010 --> 00:48:05,800
stuff but of course you know Randall

1069
00:48:10,050 --> 00:48:08,020
Carlson and and some of the things that

1070
00:48:12,990 --> 00:48:10,060
Hancock is starting to point out and

1071
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:13,000
then you have gobekli tepe it seems like

1072
00:48:20,190 --> 00:48:16,510
we cannot run away and hide from this

1073
00:48:24,090 --> 00:48:20,200
number 10,500 BC if right it's

1074
00:48:26,190 --> 00:48:24,100
everywhere well yeah yeah 10,000

1075
00:48:28,620 --> 00:48:26,200
that's a round number I would actually

1076
00:48:31,770 --> 00:48:28,630
round it for a completeness sake to

1077
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:31,780
10,000 are just for simplicity sake okay

1078
00:48:38,820 --> 00:48:35,290
10,000 10,500 what we're really talking

1079
00:48:40,590 --> 00:48:38,830
about is the last this is me speaking as

1080
00:48:42,330 --> 00:48:40,600
a geologist and also based on my

1081
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:42,340
research what we're really talking about

1082
00:48:49,770 --> 00:48:47,050
is the last millennium of the end of the

1083
00:48:50,730 --> 00:48:49,780
last ice age the last ice age ending

1084
00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:50,740
9007

1085
00:48:56,910 --> 00:48:54,640
100 BC and the millennium before that so

1086
00:48:59,609 --> 00:48:56,920
say ten thousand five hundred to nine

1087
00:49:02,580 --> 00:48:59,619
thousand seven hundred BC and this

1088
00:49:04,859 --> 00:49:02,590
number is everywhere and I mean up

1089
00:49:08,850 --> 00:49:04,869
everywhere but this is the end of the

1090
00:49:11,780 --> 00:49:08,860
last ice age this seems to be pinnacle

1091
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:11,790
if you would of an earlier civilization

1092
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:16,480
that was decimated in 9700 BC and and

1093
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:19,330
and Plato that you know what this I find

1094
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:21,130
this really strange Graham brought this

1095
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:23,110
up and when he brought it up it was

1096
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:25,330
already on my mind and I think a lot of

1097
00:49:30,330 --> 00:49:27,970
others too when Plato's started throwing

1098
00:49:33,930 --> 00:49:30,340
when he wrote write and he's talking

1099
00:49:36,180 --> 00:49:33,940
about 9,000 years before and then that

1100
00:49:38,670 --> 00:49:36,190
lands right back on this date of course

1101
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:38,680
he's bringing that a word Leto is really

1102
00:49:46,170 --> 00:49:42,010
important because Plato if you take him

1103
00:49:51,660 --> 00:49:46,180
literally comes in about 9600 BC I'm

1104
00:49:53,700 --> 00:49:51,670
talking 9700 BC not an accident it's not

1105
00:49:55,830 --> 00:49:53,710
an accident it's not an accident at all

1106
00:49:59,190 --> 00:49:55,840
that's why I say and round numbers we're

1107
00:50:02,340 --> 00:49:59,200
talking 10,000 BC and things are

1108
00:50:07,650 --> 00:50:02,350
converging around that date and we can't

1109
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:07,660
escape it right and exactly the the kind

1110
00:50:12,420 --> 00:50:10,810
we have the the cosmology part and the

1111
00:50:14,849 --> 00:50:12,430
Cataclysm part and we have the Great

1112
00:50:18,090 --> 00:50:14,859
Flood part and we have all of those you

1113
00:50:20,370 --> 00:50:18,100
know stories of mythology we have all of

1114
00:50:23,340 --> 00:50:20,380
that comes into play but what I think is

1115
00:50:26,730 --> 00:50:23,350
also most important here is gobekli tepe

1116
00:50:29,700 --> 00:50:26,740
now lands on that and yeah it's just

1117
00:50:31,380 --> 00:50:29,710
like we can't we have to stop at some

1118
00:50:38,250 --> 00:50:31,390
point ago okay there is something going

1119
00:50:40,260 --> 00:50:38,260
on and and we have the a word well I

1120
00:50:40,859 --> 00:50:40,270
will say it now when I started this

1121
00:50:44,430 --> 00:50:40,869
business

1122
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:44,440
John Anthony West was so frustrated with

1123
00:50:50,849 --> 00:50:47,200
me because I would not say the a-word

1124
00:50:54,750 --> 00:50:50,859
out loud I would not say even in private

1125
00:50:58,290 --> 00:50:54,760
out loud because it's so it's so

1126
00:51:01,530 --> 00:50:58,300
volatile among academics completely

1127
00:51:02,130 --> 00:51:01,540
taboo completely lately taboo exactly

1128
00:51:04,529 --> 00:51:02,140
okay

1129
00:51:11,269 --> 00:51:04,539
so audience knows what the a word is I

1130
00:51:16,799 --> 00:51:11,279
hope so are you are you it's not aliens

1131
00:51:18,930 --> 00:51:16,809
everybody can you say the a word right

1132
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:18,940
now I can say though a word now do you

1133
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:20,890
want me to say the a word come out of

1134
00:51:27,859 --> 00:51:22,720
the closet come out of the closet and

1135
00:51:31,259 --> 00:51:27,869
say the a-word do it Atlantis oh man

1136
00:51:33,299 --> 00:51:31,269
now if you had me on a couple of decades

1137
00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:33,309
ago I would not have done that and

1138
00:51:39,660 --> 00:51:35,440
seriously you wouldn't have seriously

1139
00:51:42,329 --> 00:51:39,670
seriously because there was a time and

1140
00:51:44,579 --> 00:51:42,339
actually I think academia collectively

1141
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:44,589
has moved on now but there was a time

1142
00:51:49,289 --> 00:51:46,930
that if you said that a word if you said

1143
00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:49,299
Atlantis and you spoke about Lantis

1144
00:51:54,779 --> 00:51:52,089
seriously other than in the context of

1145
00:51:57,630 --> 00:51:54,789
being philosopher who obviously

1146
00:52:02,039 --> 00:51:57,640
obviously dismissed is just a myth that

1147
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:02,049
was trying to tell you no truisms or

1148
00:52:07,230 --> 00:52:04,690
political theory but you would never

1149
00:52:09,329 --> 00:52:07,240
believe it as being anything real

1150
00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:09,339
other than that context if you were in

1151
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:11,529
academia so if you were a scientist if

1152
00:52:15,779 --> 00:52:12,880
you were anthropologists and

1153
00:52:18,180 --> 00:52:15,789
archaeologists if you said that a word

1154
00:52:21,059 --> 00:52:18,190
Atlantis people would just dismiss you

1155
00:52:24,660 --> 00:52:21,069
kiss of death career kiss of death kiss

1156
00:52:26,970 --> 00:52:24,670
of death and so who seriously in the

1157
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:26,980
early 90s we're walking around the

1158
00:52:33,269 --> 00:52:30,130
plateau John Anthony West was very much

1159
00:52:37,109 --> 00:52:33,279
into the concept of Atlantis not as a

1160
00:52:39,359 --> 00:52:37,119
single place but as the concept that

1161
00:52:42,150 --> 00:52:39,369
there was advanced civilization a remote

1162
00:52:45,089 --> 00:52:42,160
period of time that's how he would use

1163
00:52:47,039 --> 00:52:45,099
the term if you read his books and he

1164
00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:47,049
was so frustrated that I would not say

1165
00:52:52,410 --> 00:52:50,049
it I would not talk about that now I

1166
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:52,420
want to talk about some cosmic events

1167
00:52:58,499 --> 00:52:55,930
and and your your previous book before

1168
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:58,509
this one with football and set this up

1169
00:53:02,009 --> 00:53:00,160
I'm gonna talk about a little bit after

1170
00:53:03,749 --> 00:53:02,019
the break because we have other things

1171
00:53:06,029 --> 00:53:03,759
that are quite important that we're

1172
00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:06,039
gonna be discussing tonight but there's

1173
00:53:11,819 --> 00:53:10,089
also and I want you to tell me about

1174
00:53:15,420 --> 00:53:11,829
some of the evidence that you have found

1175
00:53:19,620 --> 00:53:15,430
have you things like maybe

1176
00:53:23,579 --> 00:53:19,630
liquefied limestone or or other atomic

1177
00:53:26,430 --> 00:53:23,589
goal changes that of hell yeah you know

1178
00:53:28,290 --> 00:53:26,440
what what have you found well it's very

1179
00:53:31,890 --> 00:53:28,300
interesting we're talking about the Giza

1180
00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:31,900
Plateau we have now evidence I'm

1181
00:53:38,010 --> 00:53:34,480
convinced that we have evidence on the

1182
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:38,020
Giza Plateau of essentially plasma

1183
00:53:42,599 --> 00:53:40,690
strike a solar outbursts strike and you

1184
00:53:44,579 --> 00:53:42,609
said use the term liquefied limestone

1185
00:53:48,059 --> 00:53:44,589
that's a good way to put it basically

1186
00:53:49,859 --> 00:53:48,069
what happens is that it hits and you can

1187
00:53:53,190 --> 00:53:49,869
think of it as sort of being a huge

1188
00:53:55,890 --> 00:53:53,200
thunderbolt but not thunder in the sense

1189
00:53:57,450 --> 00:53:55,900
of atmospheric thunder but coming from a

1190
00:54:01,260 --> 00:53:57,460
solar outburst and we can talk about

1191
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:01,270
this more as the show goes on this I am

1192
00:54:04,859 --> 00:54:03,010
absolutely convinced and this is why I

1193
00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:04,869
talk about in forgotten civilization

1194
00:54:09,839 --> 00:54:07,359
that book the role of solar outbursts in

1195
00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:09,849
our past and future that it was a solar

1196
00:54:15,540 --> 00:54:12,160
outbursts that end at the last ice age

1197
00:54:19,010 --> 00:54:15,550
in 9700 BC snapped us out of it changed

1198
00:54:22,829 --> 00:54:19,020
climatic patterns and temperatures

1199
00:54:25,530 --> 00:54:22,839
almost instantaneously I now in

1200
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:25,540
convinced that we have evidence right on

1201
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:29,010
the Giza Plateau where one of these hit

1202
00:54:37,349 --> 00:54:32,770
12,000 years ago and it basically burnt

1203
00:54:39,150 --> 00:54:37,359
and liquefied melted part of the

1204
00:54:41,099 --> 00:54:39,160
limestone there and then a tree

1205
00:54:43,380 --> 00:54:41,109
congealed it's essentially a form of

1206
00:54:45,870 --> 00:54:43,390
vitrification and you can see this to

1207
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:45,880
this day it's very close to the second

1208
00:54:50,579 --> 00:54:47,890
pyramid and the so-called mortuary

1209
00:54:52,890 --> 00:54:50,589
temple of the second pyramid and it's

1210
00:54:56,609 --> 00:54:52,900
really interesting that you can go to

1211
00:54:58,440 --> 00:54:56,619
the museum in Cairo on the Egyptian

1212
00:55:01,410 --> 00:54:58,450
Museum they have what they call the

1213
00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:01,420
inventory inventory Stella which has

1214
00:55:04,799 --> 00:55:03,250
been very controversial among

1215
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:04,809
Egyptologist for a very long time

1216
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:07,650
because it talks about the Sphinx

1217
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:10,569
preceding the Great Pyramid coming

1218
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:12,250
before the Great Pyramid coming before

1219
00:55:17,609 --> 00:55:15,130
Khufu the so-called the reputed builder

1220
00:55:19,859 --> 00:55:17,619
of the Great Pyramid and furthermore it

1221
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:19,869
talks about the Sphinx being quote

1222
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:23,650
struck by lightning and knocking a piece

1223
00:55:29,529 --> 00:55:25,920
off of it now what are we talking about

1224
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:29,539
surface temperatures

1225
00:55:33,429 --> 00:55:31,249
when it hits you were talking so a

1226
00:55:35,829 --> 00:55:33,439
couple of thousand to several thousand

1227
00:55:40,299 --> 00:55:35,839
degrees Celsius and we're talking

1228
00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:40,309
atmospheric pressures where it hits you

1229
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:42,559
know which is a localized area sort of

1230
00:55:47,139 --> 00:55:44,569
like a tornado hitting right so you're

1231
00:55:49,139 --> 00:55:47,149
talking several thousand potentially

1232
00:55:52,769 --> 00:55:49,149
several thousand degrees Celsius and

1233
00:55:55,989 --> 00:55:52,779
atmospheric pressures of 50,000 to

1234
00:55:59,939 --> 00:55:55,999
70,000 or so atmospheric pressure now

1235
00:56:02,620 --> 00:55:59,949
how long does this last well the actual

1236
00:56:05,949 --> 00:56:02,630
strike is going to be very quick just

1237
00:56:08,349 --> 00:56:05,959
like atmospheric lightning strike right

1238
00:56:10,779 --> 00:56:08,359
but it's going to continue you know

1239
00:56:14,229 --> 00:56:10,789
serve like a tornado touching down that

1240
00:56:17,289 --> 00:56:14,239
type of thing over a period of time

1241
00:56:19,389 --> 00:56:17,299
probably will come in waves of my guess

1242
00:56:21,159 --> 00:56:19,399
is several days to a couple of weeks

1243
00:56:24,009 --> 00:56:21,169
then it would back off when you probably

1244
00:56:26,019 --> 00:56:24,019
have more again that type of things and

1245
00:56:29,620 --> 00:56:26,029
we've got about one more minute before

1246
00:56:32,169 --> 00:56:29,630
the break so when this happens of dr.

1247
00:56:37,539 --> 00:56:32,179
Schaack just so I'm clear what happens

1248
00:56:40,929 --> 00:56:37,549
to life mammals humans well it destroys

1249
00:56:43,179 --> 00:56:40,939
the magnetosphere destroys the parts of

1250
00:56:46,649 --> 00:56:43,189
the stratosphere etc you have increased

1251
00:56:49,089 --> 00:56:46,659
radiation levels you have surface

1252
00:56:52,149 --> 00:56:49,099
incineration in some places you said

1253
00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:52,159
forest fires where there's flammable you

1254
00:56:58,689 --> 00:56:54,079
know forests and other materials right

1255
00:57:02,189 --> 00:56:58,699
you melt glaciers you melt bodies of

1256
00:57:04,809 --> 00:57:02,199
water you put incredible amounts of

1257
00:57:08,019 --> 00:57:04,819
moisture into the atmosphere that comes

1258
00:57:10,539 --> 00:57:08,029
down as torrential rains precipitation

1259
00:57:14,589 --> 00:57:10,549
torrential rains which you know look at

1260
00:57:17,469 --> 00:57:14,599
the Sphinx eroded by torrential rains

1261
00:57:19,929 --> 00:57:17,479
you have flooding both on land and

1262
00:57:21,549 --> 00:57:19,939
rising sea levels I mean it's quite

1263
00:57:27,069 --> 00:57:21,559
devastating it sets off earthquakes

1264
00:57:30,609 --> 00:57:27,079
because of pressure that are released as

1265
00:57:32,469 --> 00:57:30,619
you know glaciers also there's actually

1266
00:57:34,989 --> 00:57:32,479
lots of evidence now that solar activity

1267
00:57:36,639 --> 00:57:34,999
and earthquake activity correlate with

1268
00:57:38,979 --> 00:57:36,649
each other so I mean we've been

1269
00:57:41,319 --> 00:57:38,989
absolutely devastating all that surface

1270
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:41,329
of the earth and large mammals would

1271
00:57:45,099 --> 00:57:42,890
tend to go extinct with

1272
00:57:47,230 --> 00:57:45,109
tend to die often this is exactly what

1273
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:47,240
we see at the end of the last ice age

1274
00:57:52,539 --> 00:57:50,089
humans are large mammals but some of us

1275
00:57:54,460 --> 00:57:52,549
escaped into caves underground we'll

1276
00:57:57,309 --> 00:57:54,470
take a quick break right here our guest

1277
00:58:00,400 --> 00:57:57,319
tonight dr. Robert Schoch it is going to

1278
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:00,410
be a complete geesa evening I'm here

1279
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:01,730
should be Church this his fade to black

1280
00:58:05,830 --> 00:58:03,890
more with dr. Schaack right after this

1281
00:58:19,310 --> 00:58:05,840
short break stay with us

1282
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:21,700
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1283
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:24,450
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product this is Micah Hanks of the

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graylien report and you're listening to

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01:01:30,660 --> 01:01:28,810
Jimmy church on fade to black across the

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globe on the game-changer radio network

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01:01:34,310 --> 01:01:33,310
and the one and only kgr a radio the

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planet

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[Music]

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01:02:00,979 --> 01:01:56,819
all right welcome back fade to black our

1345
01:02:02,930 --> 01:02:00,989
guest tonight dr. Robert Schoch and I I

1346
01:02:05,719 --> 01:02:02,940
just have to say this to the audience I

1347
01:02:08,839 --> 01:02:05,729
enjoy when he's on the show with us

1348
01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:08,849
because it is just a dynamic open-ended

1349
01:02:13,189 --> 01:02:12,089
conversation that tends to go anywhere

1350
01:02:15,859 --> 01:02:13,199
and everywhere

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01:02:20,599 --> 01:02:15,869
and that's the best part dr. Shaw I keep

1352
01:02:23,689 --> 01:02:20,609
calling dr. Schaack Robert what are your

1353
01:02:25,819 --> 01:02:23,699
students call you they call me dr. Shawn

1354
01:02:28,459 --> 01:02:25,829
see okay see that's different and then

1355
01:02:30,049 --> 01:02:28,469
if I tell them I don't I I'm

1356
01:02:32,479 --> 01:02:30,059
old-fashioned this way I don't think

1357
01:02:33,650 --> 01:02:32,489
young undergraduates should be calling

1358
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:33,660
me by my first name

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01:02:38,689 --> 01:02:36,690
so I tell them dr. Schaack is good if

1360
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:38,699
they want to be less formal than just

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01:02:51,199 --> 01:02:42,930
shocked or or get to your senior year

1362
01:02:52,789 --> 01:02:51,209
then you can call me Bobby with all of

1363
01:02:55,339 --> 01:02:52,799
your knowledge no I wouldn't be I

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01:02:57,650 --> 01:02:55,349
wouldn't be vindictive like that no I'm

1365
01:03:05,569 --> 01:02:57,660
but they know not to they wouldn't they

1366
01:03:09,559 --> 01:03:05,579
would not dare big red one with all of

1367
01:03:13,069 --> 01:03:09,569
your knowledge of cataclysms and and and

1368
01:03:15,439 --> 01:03:13,079
the cosmology and cosmic events and with

1369
01:03:18,949 --> 01:03:15,449
all of your knowledge of this do you and

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01:03:22,219 --> 01:03:18,959
Katy prep do you guys have a Preppers

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01:03:24,199 --> 01:03:22,229
kill no no we're even beyond that I hate

1372
01:03:26,269 --> 01:03:24,209
to say it this way we think that when

1373
01:03:29,269 --> 01:03:26,279
it's going to at least I'll speak for

1374
01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:29,279
myself when it happens it is going to be

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01:03:35,630 --> 01:03:33,049
so serious it's going to be so bad for

1376
01:03:37,839 --> 01:03:35,640
instance a major solar outburst is just

1377
01:03:41,749 --> 01:03:37,849
go ahead and knock out grid systems

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01:03:45,289 --> 01:03:41,759
communication we live in Boston you're

1379
01:03:46,729 --> 01:03:45,299
going to have a I you've got me off my

1380
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:46,739
attention now and I don't want to sound

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01:03:51,949 --> 01:03:49,170
the wrong way so scare monger fear

1382
01:03:55,660 --> 01:03:51,959
monger right or prophesizing gloom and

1383
01:03:58,430 --> 01:03:55,670
doom but honestly a decent solar event

1384
01:04:00,289 --> 01:03:58,440
solar outburst and it doesn't need to be

1385
01:04:02,209 --> 01:04:00,299
as big as what happened at the end of

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01:04:05,390 --> 01:04:02,219
the last ice age it could be as big as a

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01:04:07,370 --> 01:04:05,400
Goering tainha vent which was in 1859 so

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01:04:09,710 --> 01:04:07,380
not that long ago which was very

1389
01:04:11,450 --> 01:04:09,720
or asked her physically right there

1390
01:04:13,579 --> 01:04:11,460
would be for instance a EMP

1391
01:04:16,579 --> 01:04:13,589
electromagnetic pulse that would go with

1392
01:04:19,940 --> 01:04:16,589
it that would knock out something that

1393
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:19,950
we have all of us tend to have now which

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01:04:25,339 --> 01:04:22,410
is cars which are really little which

1395
01:04:26,839 --> 01:04:25,349
are really computers on wheels so would

1396
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:26,849
destroy that you probably wouldn't be

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01:04:33,410 --> 01:04:28,650
able to start your car to get to your

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01:04:35,450 --> 01:04:33,420
hideout if you prep that way you know

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01:04:38,390 --> 01:04:35,460
it's going to be a very bleak situation

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01:04:44,180 --> 01:04:38,400
so I would say the way that we prep is

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01:04:46,279 --> 01:04:44,190
really mental attitude trying to you

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01:04:49,749 --> 01:04:46,289
know make connections with other people

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01:04:52,069 --> 01:04:49,759
it's not so much stockpiling food and

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01:04:54,890 --> 01:04:52,079
water that type of thing we have a

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01:04:58,069 --> 01:04:54,900
little bit but that's only going to last

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01:04:59,480 --> 01:04:58,079
so long yeah what you have to you know

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01:05:02,120 --> 01:04:59,490
you have to do something there's no

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01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:02,130
doubt yeah yeah yeah something but I'm

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01:05:07,670 --> 01:05:05,970
not big into you know having and you

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01:05:10,730 --> 01:05:07,680
keep doesn't work in a city anyway

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01:05:13,730 --> 01:05:10,740
having a huge stockpile of food and

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01:05:17,359 --> 01:05:13,740
water and you know I know some people

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01:05:20,990 --> 01:05:17,369
have guns to shoot because they're going

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01:05:22,730 --> 01:05:21,000
to try and steal it from them and then I

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01:05:23,930 --> 01:05:22,740
watch some people and I've talked to

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01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:23,940
people and they've got all these

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01:05:27,710 --> 01:05:25,650
businesses of all they're going to know

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01:05:32,109 --> 01:05:27,720
how to live off the land and the woods

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01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:32,119
etc etc what that might all be destroyed

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01:05:37,789 --> 01:05:35,130
and it's not fear you see you know this

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01:05:40,279 --> 01:05:37,799
is what this is what I want to make

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01:05:43,579 --> 01:05:40,289
clear to everybody it's not it's not

1423
01:05:45,950 --> 01:05:43,589
about fear it could be anything

1424
01:05:48,620 --> 01:05:45,960
you know these hurricanes that we just

1425
01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:48,630
had yeah it could be anything could be

1426
01:05:52,130 --> 01:05:50,400
anything there's many different things

1427
01:05:55,130 --> 01:05:52,140
that could be and you don't really know

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01:05:56,930 --> 01:05:55,140
what it's going to be in that sense so

1429
01:05:58,819 --> 01:05:56,940
there's different preparations you would

1430
01:06:00,200 --> 01:05:58,829
have to make for different things but I

1431
01:06:02,900 --> 01:06:00,210
think what we really have to worry about

1432
01:06:05,630 --> 01:06:02,910
is something knocking out our grid

1433
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:05,640
system yeah that's here's our great

1434
01:06:11,539 --> 01:06:09,210
system goes down I'm talking major grid

1435
01:06:14,870 --> 01:06:11,549
system going down what is going to

1436
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:14,880
happen among other things and I know you

1437
01:06:19,099 --> 01:06:17,130
and I have maybe talked about this we're

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01:06:20,870 --> 01:06:19,109
going to have nuclear power plants that

1439
01:06:22,789 --> 01:06:20,880
aren't being fed

1440
01:06:24,769 --> 01:06:22,799
electricity and it's ironic because they

1441
01:06:26,990 --> 01:06:24,779
make electricity but they need to be

1442
01:06:29,390 --> 01:06:27,000
maintained on the grid system for their

1443
01:06:32,450 --> 01:06:29,400
cooling systems etc etc we're going to

1444
01:06:35,900 --> 01:06:32,460
have Fukushima type situations releasing

1445
01:06:39,049 --> 01:06:35,910
radiation and no amount of prepping is

1446
01:06:41,180 --> 01:06:39,059
really going to prepare you for that I

1447
01:06:44,420 --> 01:06:41,190
wanted to ask you so I'm just giving one

1448
01:06:46,190 --> 01:06:44,430
bad case scenario oh yeah and you don't

1449
01:06:51,109 --> 01:06:46,200
want to predict this but it's it could

1450
01:06:52,910 --> 01:06:51,119
realistically happen in 1859 the which

1451
01:06:56,150 --> 01:06:52,920
they did probably didn't understand

1452
01:06:59,089 --> 01:06:56,160
completely what was going on but all of

1453
01:07:00,559 --> 01:06:59,099
the wire transmission or anything that

1454
01:07:02,749 --> 01:07:00,569
was already installed what little

1455
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:02,759
infrastructure was there it went up in

1456
01:07:07,730 --> 01:07:05,730
flames it went up in flames literally

1457
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:07,740
literally because you've got these wires

1458
01:07:15,049 --> 01:07:11,490
which act as huge antenna there they

1459
01:07:17,900 --> 01:07:15,059
carried the load of the incoming energy

1460
01:07:20,569 --> 01:07:17,910
that's coming from outburst like that is

1461
01:07:23,059 --> 01:07:20,579
basically electrical plasma outburst

1462
01:07:25,519 --> 01:07:23,069
coronal mass ejections etc not to Ghent

1463
01:07:28,460 --> 01:07:25,529
all the technical details it overloaded

1464
01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:28,470
them transmission lines you know this is

1465
01:07:33,170 --> 01:07:30,240
for the Telegraph back then the

1466
01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:33,180
telegraph stations literally went up in

1467
01:07:41,329 --> 01:07:37,049
flames burnt down etc etc this and that

1468
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:41,339
was a very robust system ours is much

1469
01:07:46,759 --> 01:07:44,690
more vulnerable if you think of all the

1470
01:07:49,819 --> 01:07:46,769
miniaturization that we have in our

1471
01:07:52,789 --> 01:07:49,829
computers etc etc that makes them much

1472
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:52,799
more vulnerable like I said a EMP that

1473
01:07:57,829 --> 01:07:55,890
would be associated with a decent size

1474
01:07:59,900 --> 01:07:57,839
solar outburst is just going to knock

1475
01:08:02,599 --> 01:07:59,910
out computers left and right including

1476
01:08:06,980 --> 01:08:02,609
those in cars so I know some people they

1477
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:06,990
have you know their their cabin in the

1478
01:08:11,539 --> 01:08:09,930
woods stockpiled etc and they think

1479
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:11,549
they're going to jump into their car and

1480
01:08:17,050 --> 01:08:14,490
drive there well first if anyone can

1481
01:08:20,510 --> 01:08:17,060
drive the highways are going to be

1482
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:20,520
parking lots but secondly most cars

1483
01:08:30,979 --> 01:08:28,290
won't work bicycles like China like

1484
01:08:32,030 --> 01:08:30,989
China it makes a lot of sense what makes

1485
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:32,040
a lot of sense

1486
01:08:37,190 --> 01:08:34,770
okay anyway yeah we we

1487
01:08:39,829 --> 01:08:37,200
we we take all this stuff seriously but

1488
01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:39,839
we since I hate to say we hope for the

1489
01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:43,920
best and I just maybe it's just not in

1490
01:08:49,700 --> 01:08:47,040
my genes to be a big prepper what's the

1491
01:08:52,730 --> 01:08:49,710
physical stance versus mental / to

1492
01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:52,740
prepare for it mentally I think through

1493
01:08:58,700 --> 01:08:55,920
what would I do how do I keep calm how

1494
01:09:00,680 --> 01:08:58,710
do I can I don't want to sound the wrong

1495
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:00,690
way but there is a spiritual aspect to

1496
01:09:06,470 --> 01:09:04,170
this completely completely completely

1497
01:09:09,500 --> 01:09:06,480
and free and that's probably the most

1498
01:09:11,090 --> 01:09:09,510
important aspect of my opinion you said

1499
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:11,100
the right word there you know go hang

1500
01:09:17,190 --> 01:09:14,250
out with friends right yeah exactly

1501
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:17,200
go go mend those bridges that you burnt

1502
01:09:25,519 --> 01:09:20,690
[Laughter]

1503
01:09:26,660 --> 01:09:25,529
how Hollywood turned to geesa and and

1504
01:09:28,970 --> 01:09:26,670
talk about a couple of things really

1505
01:09:30,380 --> 01:09:28,980
quick there were about three or four

1506
01:09:32,630 --> 01:09:30,390
things that popped up in Twitter right

1507
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:32,640
back to back so I'm gonna bang these out

1508
01:09:39,050 --> 01:09:34,970
for the Twitter audience really quick

1509
01:09:41,059 --> 01:09:39,060
what is the what's the hole on the top

1510
01:09:44,420 --> 01:09:41,069
of the Sphinx what does that lead to

1511
01:09:47,180 --> 01:09:44,430
I probably leads to absolutely nothing

1512
01:09:50,390 --> 01:09:47,190
it's filled in to the best of my

1513
01:09:54,110 --> 01:09:50,400
knowledge now with cement that type of

1514
01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:54,120
thing and it we speculate when I say we

1515
01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:56,400
Robert Bauval and I and this is one of

1516
01:10:00,680 --> 01:09:58,560
his sections of the book that it was

1517
01:10:04,190 --> 01:10:00,690
probably a hole that was used in ancient

1518
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:04,200
times and when I say ancient times it's

1519
01:10:08,210 --> 01:10:06,810
not clear how far back in ancient times

1520
01:10:10,790 --> 01:10:08,220
because I remember we could be talking

1521
01:10:13,100 --> 01:10:10,800
four thousand years ago versus twelve

1522
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:13,110
thousand years ago so probably more

1523
01:10:17,270 --> 01:10:14,850
recent ancient times which is still

1524
01:10:20,420 --> 01:10:17,280
thousands of years ago it's probably a

1525
01:10:24,470 --> 01:10:20,430
hole we speculate that was used for

1526
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:24,480
various headdresses that were used to

1527
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:26,970
adorn the Sphinx you know placed on the

1528
01:10:31,790 --> 01:10:29,850
Sphinx right there is to this day and

1529
01:10:34,250 --> 01:10:31,800
the Egyptian Museum in Cairo for

1530
01:10:36,980 --> 01:10:34,260
instance part of a head of a snake that

1531
01:10:38,930 --> 01:10:36,990
at one point was on the Sphinx or is

1532
01:10:41,510 --> 01:10:38,940
believed to have been on distinct but

1533
01:10:44,540 --> 01:10:41,520
this thinks was heavily modified since

1534
01:10:47,709 --> 01:10:44,550
its origins about 12,000 plus years ago

1535
01:10:49,870 --> 01:10:47,719
the head has been recarved

1536
01:10:52,299 --> 01:10:49,880
in my assessment so this is me now

1537
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:52,309
speaking personally I think that whole

1538
01:10:58,540 --> 01:10:56,690
is a later edition used to hold various

1539
01:11:01,149 --> 01:10:58,550
headdresses that were placed on the

1540
01:11:03,939 --> 01:11:01,159
Sphinx probably since it was recarved

1541
01:11:06,459 --> 01:11:03,949
into a human hand that's my best

1542
01:11:09,759 --> 01:11:06,469
estimate of it I don't think it goes

1543
01:11:10,450 --> 01:11:09,769
down into any kind of deep tunnel or

1544
01:11:13,509 --> 01:11:10,460
chamber

1545
01:11:16,270 --> 01:11:13,519
I don't can't absolutely preclude that

1546
01:11:18,009 --> 01:11:16,280
possibility but I don't see evidence for

1547
01:11:20,620 --> 01:11:18,019
that either with all of the

1548
01:11:22,299 --> 01:11:20,630
reconstruction that has gone on with the

1549
01:11:24,399 --> 01:11:22,309
Sphinx and it's heavy I mean it's all

1550
01:11:25,060 --> 01:11:24,409
like you know they've and I think they

1551
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:25,070
jumped ahead

1552
01:11:29,469 --> 01:11:26,449
you know they shouldn't have done it but

1553
01:11:32,589 --> 01:11:29,479
they've done it are you talking modern

1554
01:11:34,060 --> 01:11:32,599
or ancient well actually we can go with

1555
01:11:35,859 --> 01:11:34,070
both but I'm gonna go with the AH turn

1556
01:11:39,100 --> 01:11:35,869
for now but even with the ancient

1557
01:11:43,719 --> 01:11:39,110
reconstruction they've hidden a lot of

1558
01:11:45,580 --> 01:11:43,729
the erosion evidence absolutely and it's

1559
01:11:47,979 --> 01:11:45,590
very interesting since I've been working

1560
01:11:51,489 --> 01:11:47,989
on this that a lot has been hidden since

1561
01:11:55,689 --> 01:11:51,499
I started in fact some of the best

1562
01:11:58,149 --> 01:11:55,699
evidence some of the huge fissures and

1563
01:12:01,509 --> 01:11:58,159
whatnot on the south wall of the Sphinx

1564
01:12:03,370 --> 01:12:01,519
enclosure I've been amazed in the last

1565
01:12:05,410 --> 01:12:03,380
couple of years when I've been back to

1566
01:12:07,839 --> 01:12:05,420
Egypt to look at it and review the

1567
01:12:10,270 --> 01:12:07,849
evidence they've closed some of it in

1568
01:12:14,709 --> 01:12:10,280
they've covered it over cemented in and

1569
01:12:16,899 --> 01:12:14,719
destroyed evidence and what about I'm

1570
01:12:18,700 --> 01:12:16,909
not accusing them of doing that purpose

1571
01:12:20,890 --> 01:12:18,710
for you destroy evidence maybe they just

1572
01:12:24,219 --> 01:12:20,900
think they're maybe you beautifying it

1573
01:12:26,529 --> 01:12:24,229
or who knows what but yeah well now what

1574
01:12:28,509 --> 01:12:26,539
about evidence of something going on

1575
01:12:30,250 --> 01:12:28,519
underneath the Sphinx and I know that

1576
01:12:33,149 --> 01:12:30,260
you've been looking at this angle for

1577
01:12:35,549 --> 01:12:33,159
for a while not only Edgar Cayce but

1578
01:12:39,250 --> 01:12:35,559
something else maybe

1579
01:12:41,799 --> 01:12:39,260
besides Edgar you know a library

1580
01:12:43,620 --> 01:12:41,809
knowledge but but tunnels in general

1581
01:12:46,719 --> 01:12:43,630
yeah they're well there's definitely

1582
01:12:48,759 --> 01:12:46,729
something under the left paw the Sphinx

1583
01:12:52,299 --> 01:12:48,769
that's a paw on the right side when you

1584
01:12:54,450 --> 01:12:52,309
face the Sphinx we found that Tomas de

1585
01:12:58,060 --> 01:12:54,460
Becky and I found that in the early

1586
01:13:01,120 --> 01:12:58,070
1990s using seismic we found a tunnel

1587
01:13:03,130 --> 01:13:01,130
also the same way using low

1588
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:03,140
seismic ice a low-level low-energy

1589
01:13:09,430 --> 01:13:07,370
seismic and that sort of extends the

1590
01:13:12,490 --> 01:13:09,440
length of the body of the Sphinx it I

1591
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:12,500
have nice diagrams of this in origins of

1592
01:13:17,830 --> 01:13:14,810
the Sphinx so not to plug the book but

1593
01:13:20,430 --> 01:13:17,840
to plug the information people can get a

1594
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:20,440
copy and look at the diagrams for this

1595
01:13:25,900 --> 01:13:23,930
so that goes through the body of the

1596
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:25,910
Sphinx are long the body of this things

1597
01:13:29,850 --> 01:13:27,650
more or less and there's another cavity

1598
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:29,860
in the back that we found which was

1599
01:13:35,620 --> 01:13:32,930
fairly well known because I Hamas had

1600
01:13:38,770 --> 01:13:35,630
been in it and whatnot he has tonight

1601
01:13:41,710 --> 01:13:38,780
the one that's in the front under the

1602
01:13:46,900 --> 01:13:41,720
left paw that's the one that effectively

1603
01:13:51,910 --> 01:13:46,910
Edgar Cayce predicted and then this ties

1604
01:13:55,150 --> 01:13:51,920
in a new article just out this summer by

1605
01:13:58,860 --> 01:13:55,160
Manu safes a day myself and Robert

1606
01:14:02,920 --> 01:13:58,870
Bauval talks about hieroglyphic title

1607
01:14:06,100 --> 01:14:02,930
that actually refers to the Sphinx we

1608
01:14:08,620 --> 01:14:06,110
believe based on our interpretation of

1609
01:14:12,250 --> 01:14:08,630
it refers to the Sphinx and refers to

1610
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:12,260
the Sphinx as a female lioness who is

1611
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:16,370
guarding a chamber underneath her which

1612
01:14:23,770 --> 01:14:20,210
again would tie in with this concept of

1613
01:14:25,930 --> 01:14:23,780
a chamber under the Sphinx we interpret

1614
01:14:29,460 --> 01:14:25,940
the hieroglyphics to say there was this

1615
01:14:33,340 --> 01:14:29,470
female lioness the head what is her name

1616
01:14:37,180 --> 01:14:33,350
who goes back to pre-dynastic earliest

1617
01:14:39,370 --> 01:14:37,190
dynastic and arguably pre-dynastic times

1618
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:39,380
it's just that we don't have any earlier

1619
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:41,690
inscriptions so going back as far as

1620
01:14:48,660 --> 01:14:45,170
inscriptions go right and cards an

1621
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:48,670
archive literally a chamber and archive

1622
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:51,970
under the Sphinx so this is now

1623
01:14:57,970 --> 01:14:54,890
hieroglyphic evidence and the

1624
01:15:00,220 --> 01:14:57,980
Egyptologists own turf if you would that

1625
01:15:03,820 --> 01:15:00,230
argues for the same thing that I've been

1626
01:15:06,580 --> 01:15:03,830
arguing geologically that of course my

1627
01:15:09,070 --> 01:15:06,590
academic colleagues and get go back to

1628
01:15:11,050 --> 01:15:09,080
things I would not talk about 20-25

1629
01:15:14,490 --> 01:15:11,060
years ago I wouldn't be talking about

1630
01:15:16,380 --> 01:15:14,500
Edgar Cayce back then but the fact is

1631
01:15:18,420 --> 01:15:16,390
he predicted there was archive there

1632
01:15:19,860 --> 01:15:18,430
something under the chamber so we have

1633
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:19,870
all these different lines of evidence

1634
01:15:26,370 --> 01:15:24,010
pointing to the same thing but it is

1635
01:15:28,230 --> 01:15:26,380
there and I'm absolutely certain as

1636
01:15:30,930 --> 01:15:28,240
there based on the physical evidence of

1637
01:15:33,060 --> 01:15:30,940
the seismic work we did plus other

1638
01:15:38,670 --> 01:15:33,070
people have done geophysical evidence

1639
01:15:41,700 --> 01:15:38,680
and have found indications of a cavity

1640
01:15:42,450 --> 01:15:41,710
or chamber at the same spot now just to

1641
01:15:45,630 --> 01:15:42,460
finish the thought

1642
01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:45,640
laner and Hawass mark Lehner and Zahi

1643
01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:49,360
Hawass have supposedly drilled and not

1644
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:51,520
found anything but I'm absolutely

1645
01:15:56,190 --> 01:15:54,010
convinced that they handled the drill

1646
01:16:00,510 --> 01:15:56,200
such that they would purposefully miss

1647
01:16:02,580 --> 01:16:00,520
any chamber Jay Widener last time he was

1648
01:16:06,060 --> 01:16:02,590
on the show said he was in the enclosure

1649
01:16:08,070 --> 01:16:06,070
right and he's by himself and he well he

1650
01:16:10,140 --> 01:16:08,080
avoids the guards that he was down there

1651
01:16:11,910 --> 01:16:10,150
with right but there's just a few people

1652
01:16:15,300 --> 01:16:11,920
down he walks around to the back by the

1653
01:16:19,230 --> 01:16:15,310
tail and yeah and he finds a piece of

1654
01:16:21,630 --> 01:16:19,240
plywood and and he he lifts it up and

1655
01:16:25,380 --> 01:16:21,640
looks in and it's a tunnel with a ladder

1656
01:16:27,210 --> 01:16:25,390
going down into the darkness and then

1657
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:27,220
the guards came around and said hey hey

1658
01:16:32,460 --> 01:16:29,530
and he dropped the plywood and went back

1659
01:16:34,380 --> 01:16:32,470
to him but he saw that with is aware

1660
01:16:36,570 --> 01:16:34,390
yeah I've seen that I've seen that

1661
01:16:39,810 --> 01:16:36,580
that's down that's at the rear of the

1662
01:16:41,220 --> 01:16:39,820
Sphinx yes it's at the eisah left rear

1663
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:41,230
of the Sphinx that's right absolutely

1664
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:45,130
I've seen it after surreptitiously stuck

1665
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:48,090
my head as far as I could so speaking

1666
01:16:54,090 --> 01:16:51,250
and you couldn't see much but we found

1667
01:16:57,510 --> 01:16:54,100
that seismically we did not know about

1668
01:16:59,910 --> 01:16:57,520
at the time it has been demonstrating

1669
01:17:05,190 --> 01:16:59,920
our seismic was good that we picked up

1670
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:05,200
that cavity I don't know exactly what is

1671
01:17:11,580 --> 01:17:07,330
in it I've not been allowed to go into

1672
01:17:15,030 --> 01:17:11,590
it honestly I think it's probably late

1673
01:17:19,260 --> 01:17:15,040
period you know greco-roman or maybe 26

1674
01:17:21,170 --> 01:17:19,270
dynasty but that's just from a sense of

1675
01:17:25,260 --> 01:17:21,180
how it looked like it was carved right

1676
01:17:27,710 --> 01:17:25,270
but the thing is you know I should I go

1677
01:17:31,550 --> 01:17:27,720
ahead and say things on the air goods

1678
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:31,560
one could go in there conceivably and

1679
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:35,250
from that Vantage which is now if you're

1680
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:37,970
in there hidden you could potentially

1681
01:17:47,630 --> 01:17:42,890
drill or go toward the front and access

1682
01:17:49,730 --> 01:17:47,640
chambers like the one under the PAS well

1683
01:17:52,870 --> 01:17:49,740
not I have no evidence that anyone's

1684
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:52,880
actually done that and it would not

1685
01:17:57,050 --> 01:17:54,810
technologically you know the technology

1686
01:17:59,570 --> 01:17:57,060
to do that exists but you would have to

1687
01:18:02,270 --> 01:17:59,580
bring it in and you would have to that

1688
01:18:04,550 --> 01:18:02,280
do that surreptitiously if someone were

1689
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:04,560
to do that without letting everyone else

1690
01:18:10,220 --> 01:18:06,690
know and you're not going to do that

1691
01:18:12,170 --> 01:18:10,230
unless your well seat it with the

1692
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:12,180
Egyptian authorities or you are the

1693
01:18:15,590 --> 01:18:13,530
Egyptian authorities

1694
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:15,600
well now that Hawass is out of the way

1695
01:18:22,460 --> 01:18:18,090
do you think there's opportunity now to

1696
01:18:25,700 --> 01:18:22,470
finally start to have more absolutely

1697
01:18:29,060 --> 01:18:25,710
it's just going to take money ah well

1698
01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:29,070
there you go there you go I have spoken

1699
01:18:35,810 --> 01:18:32,490
doc no no I have spoken with Egyptian

1700
01:18:38,870 --> 01:18:35,820
authorities very specifically John

1701
01:18:42,370 --> 01:18:38,880
Anthony Westin I have when he was in

1702
01:18:45,140 --> 01:18:42,380
this was the summer of 2016 before he

1703
01:18:46,940 --> 01:18:45,150
found out about his illness it must have

1704
01:18:50,330 --> 01:18:46,950
been growing at the time but he was

1705
01:18:52,430 --> 01:18:50,340
unaware of it we have met with Egyptian

1706
01:18:55,940 --> 01:18:52,440
authorities we've actually gotten very

1707
01:18:59,030 --> 01:18:55,950
positive responses from them and I have

1708
01:19:03,620 --> 01:18:59,040
all the official forms that need to be

1709
01:19:06,440 --> 01:19:03,630
filled out etc etc but the equipment to

1710
01:19:08,900 --> 01:19:06,450
bring in to do this is quite costly

1711
01:19:12,350 --> 01:19:08,910
geophysical equipment is quite costly

1712
01:19:14,030 --> 01:19:12,360
and you need money up front they do not

1713
01:19:16,610 --> 01:19:14,040
want to hear that you're going to raise

1714
01:19:19,250 --> 01:19:16,620
this with crowdsourcing or that type of

1715
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:19,260
thing part of the application you

1716
01:19:25,460 --> 01:19:22,250
actually need to show you have the money

1717
01:19:27,530 --> 01:19:25,470
so I am actually pleading if there's

1718
01:19:31,340 --> 01:19:27,540
someone out there in the audience that

1719
01:19:35,060 --> 01:19:31,350
could put up money to do this I think we

1720
01:19:38,690 --> 01:19:35,070
could make real progress why won't an

1721
01:19:40,480 --> 01:19:38,700
American University it's it seems to me

1722
01:19:44,440 --> 01:19:40,490
dr. Schaack

1723
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:44,450
that Germany or France or that there are

1724
01:19:49,900 --> 01:19:47,570
other countries that are willing to you

1725
01:19:53,290 --> 01:19:49,910
know go in and explore not only not only

1726
01:19:56,260 --> 01:19:53,300
Giza but across the Sahara and and look

1727
01:19:58,120 --> 01:19:56,270
at and look for lots of evidence but I

1728
01:20:01,380 --> 01:19:58,130
don't see that happening with the United

1729
01:20:04,210 --> 01:20:01,390
States oh well the United States I mean

1730
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:04,220
there's a couple thing is funding gets

1731
01:20:09,970 --> 01:20:06,170
scarce there and scarce or it seems in

1732
01:20:13,980 --> 01:20:09,980
general it tends to be for other things

1733
01:20:17,380 --> 01:20:13,990
than you know frills like Giza

1734
01:20:19,330 --> 01:20:17,390
archeology and then there's the whole

1735
01:20:23,140 --> 01:20:19,340
problem that we've been fighting for

1736
01:20:26,830 --> 01:20:23,150
decades which this is non-conventional

1737
01:20:29,590 --> 01:20:26,840
this stands to overturn pew you know up

1738
01:20:33,220 --> 01:20:29,600
turn people's Apple carts to go against

1739
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:33,230
what their beliefs are what if we go

1740
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:35,330
into the chamber and we find records

1741
01:20:41,230 --> 01:20:39,290
from Atlantis basically that way that's

1742
01:20:42,730 --> 01:20:41,240
going to make some people very happy but

1743
01:20:46,210 --> 01:20:42,740
is going to make a lot of other people

1744
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:46,220
really upset is it I'll get I'll give

1745
01:20:54,670 --> 01:20:50,770
you example there's the whole issue of

1746
01:20:57,010 --> 01:20:54,680
could I'm trying to remember the details

1747
01:21:00,070 --> 01:20:57,020
now the whole there was a bunch of

1748
01:21:03,450 --> 01:21:00,080
hubbub about the value of the Kings and

1749
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:03,460
if you know there might be I think was

1750
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:06,650
Nefertiti's don't quote me on this but

1751
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:09,970
Nefertiti's tomb might be off of

1752
01:21:14,440 --> 01:21:12,050
Tutankhamun's yeah behind you have a

1753
01:21:16,030 --> 01:21:14,450
south wall yes yeah behind the south

1754
01:21:19,090 --> 01:21:16,040
wall I'm trying to remember the details

1755
01:21:21,460 --> 01:21:19,100
now and look at how controversial that

1756
01:21:24,610 --> 01:21:21,470
was and how difficult that was to get

1757
01:21:27,420 --> 01:21:24,620
permission etc etc and then eventually

1758
01:21:29,980 --> 01:21:27,430
they got permission or they did some

1759
01:21:31,930 --> 01:21:29,990
geophysics and they decide oh there

1760
01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:31,940
might be a cavity there but it's not a

1761
01:21:38,290 --> 01:21:35,450
chamber and I was actually talking to

1762
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:38,300
Egypt all jizz on the ground in Egypt

1763
01:21:41,770 --> 01:21:40,010
about well what what's the distinction

1764
01:21:44,340 --> 01:21:41,780
you're making they're saying oh well it

1765
01:21:47,290 --> 01:21:44,350
wasn't regular enough the walls weren't

1766
01:21:49,270 --> 01:21:47,300
you know at right angles as far as they

1767
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:49,280
could tell they it's like the

1768
01:21:53,890 --> 01:21:51,610
geophysical techniques they were using

1769
01:21:56,830 --> 01:21:53,900
wouldn't distinguish that

1770
01:22:00,220 --> 01:21:56,840
and so that's the reason for doing

1771
01:22:02,380 --> 01:22:00,230
nothing yeah yeah so they've actually

1772
01:22:06,070 --> 01:22:02,390
got evidence there's something there

1773
01:22:09,910 --> 01:22:06,080
just like we have with the Sphinx yet

1774
01:22:12,010 --> 01:22:09,920
they won't do anything and it's to me

1775
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:12,020
and maybe I shouldn't be saying this on

1776
01:22:18,250 --> 01:22:14,090
the air but to me they're just looking

1777
01:22:22,660 --> 01:22:18,260
for rationale ways to figure out why

1778
01:22:25,300 --> 01:22:22,670
they don't do something it goes it goes

1779
01:22:29,290 --> 01:22:25,310
with everything when it comes to geese

1780
01:22:31,480 --> 01:22:29,300
oh we understand that this look the

1781
01:22:34,900 --> 01:22:31,490
that's the Sphinx was buried up to its

1782
01:22:38,230 --> 01:22:34,910
neck at one point in sand right and

1783
01:22:40,870 --> 01:22:38,240
nobody knew anything it so the rest of

1784
01:22:43,510 --> 01:22:40,880
the plateau and everything going west

1785
01:22:46,810 --> 01:22:43,520
and south and north of Giza for that

1786
01:22:48,940 --> 01:22:46,820
matter there could be countless theater

1787
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:48,950
they countless things and in fact there

1788
01:22:54,790 --> 01:22:52,010
were countless things going east of the

1789
01:22:56,740 --> 01:22:54,800
Sphinx so people who have been there

1790
01:22:58,330 --> 01:22:56,750
they may be familiar they should be

1791
01:23:00,940 --> 01:22:58,340
familiar if they've been there and if

1792
01:23:03,700 --> 01:23:00,950
not at least reads origins of the Sphinx

1793
01:23:06,100 --> 01:23:03,710
and you'll see lots of photos of for

1794
01:23:08,350 --> 01:23:06,110
instance the Sphinx temple the Sphinx

1795
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:08,360
temple in front of the Sphinx the valley

1796
01:23:15,340 --> 01:23:12,050
temple just to the south and east of the

1797
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:15,350
Sphinx those were totally covered with

1798
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:16,010
sand

1799
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:18,530
no one knew they were there for

1800
01:23:23,340 --> 01:23:21,650
literally a couple thousand years the

1801
01:23:26,020 --> 01:23:23,350
Romans weren't aware of them because

1802
01:23:29,020 --> 01:23:26,030
they were covered over with saying they

1803
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:29,030
were only excavated initially in the

1804
01:23:35,230 --> 01:23:32,810
late 19th century partial poor parts of

1805
01:23:38,110 --> 01:23:35,240
them and fully excavated in the 20th

1806
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:38,120
century what kind of that's the example

1807
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:40,010
right there things that we didn't know

1808
01:23:46,030 --> 01:23:42,770
about our Egyptologist did not know

1809
01:23:48,100 --> 01:23:46,040
about until a very recent period of time

1810
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:48,110
what kind of money are we talking about

1811
01:23:53,980 --> 01:23:52,010
here that you would read I need yes yes

1812
01:23:55,900 --> 01:23:53,990
because see you have to get permissions

1813
01:24:00,160 --> 01:23:55,910
you have to get concessions as they call

1814
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:00,170
it I also have to have money to get the

1815
01:24:04,780 --> 01:24:02,810
equipment over there there's lots of

1816
01:24:06,550 --> 01:24:04,790
fees you have to pay there's lots of

1817
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:06,560
equipment you need to get certain

1818
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:07,170
technician

1819
01:24:15,050 --> 01:24:12,330
blah blah blah so you know we're talking

1820
01:24:18,410 --> 01:24:15,060
in the round ballpark a million or two

1821
01:24:21,050 --> 01:24:18,420
to get things started a million or two

1822
01:24:25,850 --> 01:24:21,060
yeah I could probably do quite a bit

1823
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:25,860
with two million okay whoa yeah no no

1824
01:24:30,350 --> 01:24:28,050
and I mean on the one hand it sounds

1825
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:30,360
like a lot on the other hand given what

1826
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:33,210
could be accomplished here and what

1827
01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:36,690
could be discovered and if you know what

1828
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:38,880
you know this type of equipment rents

1829
01:24:45,860 --> 01:24:42,090
for etc and cost to deal with we're not

1830
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:45,870
talking a lot of money I mean that's a

1831
01:24:52,850 --> 01:24:48,570
lot of money for me personally but there

1832
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:52,860
are people out there that you know it's

1833
01:24:55,910 --> 01:24:54,330
all ones perspective

1834
01:24:58,820 --> 01:24:55,920
yeah yep and they're listening right now

1835
01:25:01,400 --> 01:24:58,830
that's why I would love to have someone

1836
01:25:03,290 --> 01:25:01,410
like that because I think that if with

1837
01:25:05,660 --> 01:25:03,300
my connections and my academic

1838
01:25:07,610 --> 01:25:05,670
credentials I'm at Boston University I

1839
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:07,620
don't know if I mentioned this to you

1840
01:25:15,380 --> 01:25:12,090
even privately as of this year earlier

1841
01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:15,390
this year I was able to found at Boston

1842
01:25:19,430 --> 01:25:17,280
University within my college what's

1843
01:25:23,060 --> 01:25:19,440
known as the Institute for the Study of

1844
01:25:24,919 --> 01:25:23,070
the origins of civilization ISOC and I

1845
01:25:26,979 --> 01:25:24,929
talked about a little bit on my website

1846
01:25:30,830 --> 01:25:26,989
if people want to go there

1847
01:25:34,790 --> 01:25:30,840
ww Robert Schoch comm but this is an

1848
01:25:37,580 --> 01:25:34,800
institute devoted just to these types of

1849
01:25:40,820 --> 01:25:37,590
topics now within Boston University

1850
01:25:42,830 --> 01:25:40,830
which is a wonderful thing to use as

1851
01:25:44,900 --> 01:25:42,840
part of leverage when applying for

1852
01:25:48,709 --> 01:25:44,910
instance to the Egyptian authorities

1853
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:48,719
because the academic credentials are

1854
01:25:55,490 --> 01:25:52,410
important so between that money to get

1855
01:25:57,650 --> 01:25:55,500
the equipment money to pay the fees for

1856
01:26:01,790 --> 01:25:57,660
the concessions when you do something

1857
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:01,800
like this you have to hire Egyptians to

1858
01:26:08,209 --> 01:26:06,050
oversee things you know guards and

1859
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:08,219
inspectors that type of thing you're

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required to involve Egyptians graduate

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students so you have to pay their fees

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etc etc so there's a lot involved here

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that's where there's a lot of different

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places the money has to go well

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this is we're not talking any kind of

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salary or I just want to make it clear

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I'm not talking paying myself a cent

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right um right well I just want to see

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the research get done well this is you

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know okay so if we what we're gonna go

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ahead and and and see what we can do on

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our end but if we pull it off you have

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to do one thing you have to wear a fade

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to black t-shirt on video let's take a

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break right here when we come back we're

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gonna talk about the fourth pyramid that

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01:26:58,850 --> 01:26:57,060
is quite possibly out there historically

1878
01:27:01,280 --> 01:26:58,860
is documented we'll talk about all of

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that and also the possibility of a

1880
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second Sphinx and other things on the

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Giza Plateau our guest tonight the one

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and only dr. Robert Schoch this is fade

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Robert you stay right there now okay

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this this is fade to black

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listening to Jimmy Church this is a

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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your host Jimmy Church follow me on

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twitter at je church radio our guest

1954
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:30,440
tonight dr. Robert Schoch the questions

1955
01:31:34,810 --> 01:31:32,570
and Twitter are lining up we're gonna

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01:31:37,420 --> 01:31:34,820
get to some of those in just a second

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01:31:42,850 --> 01:31:37,430
but I want to start to discuss the

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01:31:45,610 --> 01:31:42,860
fourth pyramid on the Giza Plateau by

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01:31:48,660 --> 01:31:45,620
some reports now you know it's called

1960
01:31:51,100 --> 01:31:48,670
the black pyramid now dr. Schaack

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01:31:56,380 --> 01:31:51,110
Frederick Norden you know a Danish

1962
01:32:00,010 --> 01:31:56,390
explorer who was meticulous in his

1963
01:32:02,530 --> 01:32:00,020
illustrations in his in his expedition

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01:32:03,340 --> 01:32:02,540
in his notes I mean down to the last

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01:32:07,300 --> 01:32:03,350
detail

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01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:07,310
and here's a guy that was sent to go and

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01:32:14,890 --> 01:32:10,850
explore up and down the Nile and he

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01:32:17,910 --> 01:32:14,900
clearly states that not only was there a

1969
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:17,920
fourth pyramid but he describes it and

1970
01:32:25,270 --> 01:32:22,250
the capstone he said was a cube was

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01:32:28,870 --> 01:32:25,280
square on the top now he's not going to

1972
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:28,880
make these kind of mistakes when when

1973
01:32:36,340 --> 01:32:31,489
you read the historical accounts of this

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01:32:39,550 --> 01:32:36,350
what do you make of it there's I think

1975
01:32:42,340 --> 01:32:39,560
there's three possibilities and I was

1976
01:32:44,110 --> 01:32:42,350
thinking about this and you and I have

1977
01:32:47,229 --> 01:32:44,120
discussed a little bit before I think

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01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:47,239
there's three possibilities one is if

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01:32:52,510 --> 01:32:49,370
this ties in with just what we were

1980
01:32:54,850 --> 01:32:52,520
talking about that there could be a

1981
01:32:56,590 --> 01:32:54,860
fourth pyramid now we're not talking

1982
01:32:58,840 --> 01:32:56,600
I'll be very clear at least this is my

1983
01:33:01,330 --> 01:32:58,850
assessment we're not talking a huge

1984
01:33:06,820 --> 01:33:01,340
pyramid we're not talking a big pyramid

1985
01:33:09,990 --> 01:33:06,830
we're probably talking at the very high

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01:33:12,670 --> 01:33:10,000
end the largest possibility something

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01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:12,680
considerably smaller than the Menkaure

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01:33:16,930 --> 01:33:14,810
pyramid so those that are not familiar

1989
01:33:19,270 --> 01:33:16,940
with the Giza Plateau they should know

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01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:19,280
that the three major pyramids are the

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01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:20,810
Great Pyramid the Khufu pyramid

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01:33:25,030 --> 01:33:23,090
so-called Khufu pyramid the second

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01:33:27,459 --> 01:33:25,040
pyramid our copper pyramid they're

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01:33:30,459 --> 01:33:27,469
almost the same size then there's the

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01:33:33,220 --> 01:33:30,469
menkaure pyramid the third pyramid which

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01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:33,230
is considerably smaller this

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01:33:38,830 --> 01:33:35,930
quote forth pyramid what's probably

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01:33:41,290 --> 01:33:38,840
smaller still whatever he's referring to

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01:33:44,890 --> 01:33:41,300
so I would say the three possibilities

2000
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:44,900
as I see it are one that yes it's there

2001
01:33:51,100 --> 01:33:48,890
it was maybe exposed when he was there

2002
01:33:53,979 --> 01:33:51,110
but it may be covered up with sand at

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01:33:58,240 --> 01:33:53,989
this point we were just talking about

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01:34:00,490 --> 01:33:58,250
how the Great Pyramid I'm sorry not the

2005
01:34:02,860 --> 01:34:00,500
Great Pyramid the Sphinx temple the

2006
01:34:06,190 --> 01:34:02,870
valley temple etc were completely

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01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:06,200
covered with sand until the 19th century

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01:34:11,050 --> 01:34:09,050
so he wouldn't have seen those the Great

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01:34:14,229 --> 01:34:11,060
Pyramid the base of the Great Pyramid

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01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:14,239
was not exposed until well into the late

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01:34:20,590 --> 01:34:16,730
19th early 20th century because it was

2012
01:34:23,020 --> 01:34:20,600
covered by sand my point is that sand

2013
01:34:26,710 --> 01:34:23,030
blows around the Giza Plateau

2014
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:26,720
if the Sphinx is not kept clear to this

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01:34:32,229 --> 01:34:30,290
day within 20 to 30 years the Sphinx

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01:34:35,790 --> 01:34:32,239
enclosure will fill with sand it will

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01:34:39,460 --> 01:34:35,800
cover the body of the Sphinx up to the

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01:34:42,130 --> 01:34:39,470
neck now sand blows around him talking

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01:34:45,550 --> 01:34:42,140
geologically it could be that there was

2020
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:45,560
some smaller pyramid uncovered at that

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01:34:52,150 --> 01:34:48,890
time which since that has been covered

2022
01:34:54,010 --> 01:34:52,160
essentially with sand our sand dune so I

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01:34:57,820 --> 01:34:54,020
think that's one possibility

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01:35:00,370 --> 01:34:57,830
this another possibility is he was there

2025
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:00,380
in 1737

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01:35:09,070 --> 01:35:05,210
right so close to 300 years ago a lot

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01:35:12,910 --> 01:35:09,080
has happened in those 300 years we have

2028
01:35:16,210 --> 01:35:12,920
very good documentation that even as

2029
01:35:18,610 --> 01:35:16,220
late as the 18th century this Sphinx and

2030
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:18,620
even later but especially as late as the

2031
01:35:22,870 --> 01:35:20,930
18th century the Sphinx was still being

2032
01:35:29,530 --> 01:35:22,880
used as an open-air quarry

2033
01:35:33,460 --> 01:35:29,540
so throughout medieval times early

2034
01:35:37,660 --> 01:35:33,470
Muslim times that you know classic Arab

2035
01:35:40,060 --> 01:35:37,670
times dis Fink's the pyramids all of

2036
01:35:43,270 --> 01:35:40,070
Giza was used as an open-air quarry was

2037
01:35:46,900 --> 01:35:43,280
much easier to collect blocks from Giza

2038
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:46,910
and cart them over and build mosque

2039
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:49,250
some bridges and that type of thing so

2040
01:35:54,910 --> 01:35:50,810
it's possible

2041
01:35:58,930 --> 01:35:54,920
that it was there and it was quarried

2042
01:36:01,300 --> 01:35:58,940
away since he was there and maybe we

2043
01:36:03,490 --> 01:36:01,310
find the remains that type of thing of

2044
01:36:08,500 --> 01:36:03,500
it the third possibility which is a

2045
01:36:11,260 --> 01:36:08,510
standard archaeological explanation

2046
01:36:14,850 --> 01:36:11,270
among the conventional archaeologists is

2047
01:36:19,510 --> 01:36:14,860
that he was what he called the fourth

2048
01:36:21,610 --> 01:36:19,520
pyramid was simply the best-preserved or

2049
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:21,620
the tallest of what are known as the

2050
01:36:27,100 --> 01:36:24,050
sound like Pyramid of Menkaure

2051
01:36:29,140 --> 01:36:27,110
satellite pyramids - the third pyramid

2052
01:36:31,810 --> 01:36:29,150
and there is one that's a little bit

2053
01:36:33,970 --> 01:36:31,820
taller than the others which even in

2054
01:36:36,430 --> 01:36:33,980
19th century photographs sometimes shows

2055
01:36:38,470 --> 01:36:36,440
up from a certain perspective it looks

2056
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:38,480
like a quote fourth pyramid as if

2057
01:36:43,990 --> 01:36:40,730
there's three major ones and then the

2058
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:44,000
smaller one so I think those are the

2059
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:46,730
three major possibilities as to what

2060
01:36:52,090 --> 01:36:49,730
might be going on I would like to think

2061
01:36:55,930 --> 01:36:52,100
that it's there but it's been covered by

2062
01:36:58,230 --> 01:36:55,940
sand since he was there and the other

2063
01:37:03,100 --> 01:36:58,240
which I think geologically is quite

2064
01:37:06,730 --> 01:37:03,110
possible well his when you look at the

2065
01:37:09,100 --> 01:37:06,740
map now that he drew the scaling of it

2066
01:37:11,650 --> 01:37:09,110
is is obviously off you know with the

2067
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:11,660
mouth yeah exactly exactly and I also

2068
01:37:20,380 --> 01:37:14,810
want to remind everyone that he was

2069
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:20,390
there in 1737 1738 he died and I looked

2070
01:37:25,510 --> 01:37:23,890
this up just to have it on you know

2071
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:25,520
readily available

2072
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:30,050
he died in 1742 his work is not

2073
01:37:38,470 --> 01:37:33,970
published for another 15 to 13 15 years

2074
01:37:41,740 --> 01:37:38,480
and so people took his sketches drawings

2075
01:37:45,190 --> 01:37:41,750
turned it into engravings at genes and

2076
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:45,200
so one could also argue as you know how

2077
01:37:51,940 --> 01:37:48,530
accurate were the things lost as they

2078
01:37:53,980 --> 01:37:51,950
were transcribed some some details you

2079
01:37:57,430 --> 01:37:53,990
know some proportions yeah because that

2080
01:38:00,790 --> 01:37:57,440
fourth pyramid it could be ten miles off

2081
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:00,800
into the desert yeah yeah it could be

2082
01:38:10,750 --> 01:38:05,650
far from where some people are thinking

2083
01:38:13,290 --> 01:38:10,760
now when you as a geologist and you've

2084
01:38:17,620 --> 01:38:13,300
you been all over the Giza Plateau oh

2085
01:38:19,870 --> 01:38:17,630
how we we are it's deceiving because

2086
01:38:23,610 --> 01:38:19,880
we're looking at looking at it today

2087
01:38:27,670 --> 01:38:23,620
where so much sand has been removed

2088
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:27,680
right how deep is the sand going out to

2089
01:38:31,180 --> 01:38:29,210
the desert before you get to bedrock

2090
01:38:36,070 --> 01:38:31,190
what do we what did we tell our hundreds

2091
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:36,080
of feet uh well it depends on where you

2092
01:38:41,260 --> 01:38:38,290
are and I can't really answer that

2093
01:38:44,710 --> 01:38:41,270
absolutely definitively but I'll give

2094
01:38:47,230 --> 01:38:44,720
you an example when we did and we did

2095
01:38:50,830 --> 01:38:47,240
this seismically we ran some lines

2096
01:38:55,510 --> 01:38:50,840
across the sand from in front of the

2097
01:38:58,900 --> 01:38:55,520
Sphinx temple going east into the bill

2098
01:39:02,230 --> 01:38:58,910
village there right and when we did that

2099
01:39:04,780 --> 01:39:02,240
we everyone thought the bedrock was just

2100
01:39:08,260 --> 01:39:04,790
you know few meters below the sand we

2101
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:08,270
found places where you're talking 1015

2102
01:39:12,940 --> 01:39:11,090
meters before you hit bedrock right and

2103
01:39:15,430 --> 01:39:12,950
that was a place where people had no

2104
01:39:17,950 --> 01:39:15,440
clue that it was so deep so when you

2105
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:17,960
start talking about say the western end

2106
01:39:27,100 --> 01:39:23,330
of the plateau it could be certainly

2107
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:27,110
tens of meters so 30 40 50 feet maybe

2108
01:39:31,900 --> 01:39:29,690
even considerably more I'm just

2109
01:39:34,180 --> 01:39:31,910
speculating now something you have to

2110
01:39:38,050 --> 01:39:34,190
realize geologically is that the Giza

2111
01:39:41,410 --> 01:39:38,060
Plateau is a plateau it's a fault Laden

2112
01:39:43,780 --> 01:39:41,420
or a fault frame what I mean by that is

2113
01:39:47,410 --> 01:39:43,790
geologically there's faults on the four

2114
01:39:50,530 --> 01:39:47,420
sides so it's uplifted relative to the

2115
01:39:53,260 --> 01:39:50,540
bedrock around it which means there

2116
01:39:56,710 --> 01:39:53,270
could be quite a bit of sand before you

2117
01:39:59,080 --> 01:39:56,720
hit bedrock once you are past the scarp

2118
01:40:00,910 --> 01:39:59,090
of the plateau anything could be down

2119
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:00,920
there oh there could be lots of things

2120
01:40:06,490 --> 01:40:04,130
down there and there's been speculation

2121
01:40:08,650 --> 01:40:06,500
of course about the fourth pyramid

2122
01:40:10,930 --> 01:40:08,660
there's speculation which I think he was

2123
01:40:12,440 --> 01:40:10,940
said you wanted to get into about second

2124
01:40:15,670 --> 01:40:12,450
Sphinx

2125
01:40:18,890 --> 01:40:15,680
there could be a lot of other stuff to

2126
01:40:20,540 --> 01:40:18,900
that's going back to Atlantis right I do

2127
01:40:23,060 --> 01:40:20,550
want to go dude I didn't want to go to

2128
01:40:26,510 --> 01:40:23,070
the a word but well I figured I might as

2129
01:40:36,260 --> 01:40:26,520
well from coming out are we gonna get to

2130
01:40:38,510 --> 01:40:36,270
tonight so funny I think back at the at

2131
01:40:43,340 --> 01:40:38,520
our little panel that we did and you

2132
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:43,350
came out six times yeah at each time the

2133
01:40:48,050 --> 01:40:46,170
audience got louder and louder and

2134
01:40:49,670 --> 01:40:48,060
that's part of there was 2500 people

2135
01:40:54,830 --> 01:40:49,680
sitting in front of us that night and

2136
01:40:56,420 --> 01:40:54,840
they were encouraging you so it was so

2137
01:41:01,640 --> 01:40:56,430
funny I could believe we got to number

2138
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:01,650
six but there are historical references

2139
01:41:07,940 --> 01:41:04,730
to the second Sphinx just like there are

2140
01:41:11,650 --> 01:41:07,950
to this fourth pyramid this is not

2141
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:11,660
speculation no no they're definitely

2142
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:14,250
references the question is what are the

2143
01:41:21,740 --> 01:41:18,090
references to what is the second Sphinx

2144
01:41:24,890 --> 01:41:21,750
what could it be referring to and you

2145
01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:24,900
know there's been thoughts again I was

2146
01:41:30,440 --> 01:41:26,850
thinking about this I would say there

2147
01:41:32,750 --> 01:41:30,450
are five basic thoughts as to where the

2148
01:41:34,300 --> 01:41:32,760
Sphinx that second things could be if

2149
01:41:37,340 --> 01:41:34,310
there's a second Sphinx

2150
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:37,350
so should I enumerate those yes let's go

2151
01:41:43,610 --> 01:41:40,610
let's do well okay they're there for

2152
01:41:46,220 --> 01:41:43,620
basically five directions if you would

2153
01:41:50,030 --> 01:41:46,230
there's some speculation and I've spoken

2154
01:41:52,910 --> 01:41:50,040
with Egyptologists on the ground about

2155
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:52,920
this there's some speculation that there

2156
01:41:59,420 --> 01:41:56,370
could be a second Sphinx very close to

2157
01:42:03,530 --> 01:41:59,430
the current Sphinx that we know but

2158
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:03,540
facing west and that could be to the

2159
01:42:09,980 --> 01:42:06,770
south or to the southwest of the Sphinx

2160
01:42:13,430 --> 01:42:09,990
one Egyptologist I know this Egyptian

2161
01:42:16,340 --> 01:42:13,440
Egyptologist showed Katie and I at one

2162
01:42:20,150 --> 01:42:16,350
point what he thought was a second

2163
01:42:23,540 --> 01:42:20,160
Sphinx which is now highly highly eroded

2164
01:42:25,859 --> 01:42:23,550
and has been carved up into tombs and

2165
01:42:29,389 --> 01:42:25,869
that type of thing to be honest

2166
01:42:33,540 --> 01:42:29,399
we did not find it convincing whatsoever

2167
01:42:36,270 --> 01:42:33,550
we felt like he was showing us from one

2168
01:42:38,279 --> 01:42:36,280
angle if you used a lot of imagination

2169
01:42:41,189 --> 01:42:38,289
you could make it look like a Sphinx

2170
01:42:43,589 --> 01:42:41,199
facing West but we did not find it

2171
01:42:45,029 --> 01:42:43,599
convincing at all so I don't want though

2172
01:42:48,619 --> 01:42:45,039
he dismisses I'm not even going to

2173
01:42:52,949 --> 01:42:48,629
mention his name but I did not find that

2174
01:42:57,600 --> 01:42:52,959
convincing similarly a fellow who I've

2175
01:43:01,619 --> 01:42:57,610
never actually met but know his work and

2176
01:43:03,929 --> 01:43:01,629
he is again Egyptian by the name if I'm

2177
01:43:09,540 --> 01:43:03,939
pronouncing it correctly Bassam al-sham

2178
01:43:11,279 --> 01:43:09,550
mama mama he wrote a book literally

2179
01:43:13,969 --> 01:43:11,289
called quest for the truth

2180
01:43:18,719 --> 01:43:13,979
the second Sphinx and this came out in

2181
01:43:21,540 --> 01:43:18,729
2003 and it was published in I'm looking

2182
01:43:24,179 --> 01:43:21,550
at a copy of it which I bought in Egypt

2183
01:43:27,869 --> 01:43:24,189
it was actually published in Cairo so

2184
01:43:29,879 --> 01:43:27,879
it's fairly obscure book probably in

2185
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:29,889
American circles and he talks about

2186
01:43:35,369 --> 01:43:32,530
second Sphinx the same way in places it

2187
01:43:37,859 --> 01:43:35,379
near the current Sphinx but thinks it's

2188
01:43:40,889 --> 01:43:37,869
been recarved and ruinous that type of

2189
01:43:43,259 --> 01:43:40,899
thing some people have suggested that

2190
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:43,269
there's a second Sphinx not south or

2191
01:43:47,639 --> 01:43:45,610
southwest of the current Sphinx but

2192
01:43:51,509 --> 01:43:47,649
north of the Sphinx on

2193
01:43:52,949 --> 01:43:51,519
I think of JFK remember JFK that grassy

2194
01:43:55,500 --> 01:43:52,959
knoll right right right

2195
01:43:58,169 --> 01:43:55,510
well there's an on grassy knoll to

2196
01:44:01,469 --> 01:43:58,179
basically to the north of the Sphinx

2197
01:44:03,209 --> 01:44:01,479
which I'm not convinced at all that

2198
01:44:05,369 --> 01:44:03,219
there's a Sphinx there I think it is

2199
01:44:07,619 --> 01:44:05,379
primarily bedrock some people say oh

2200
01:44:09,419 --> 01:44:07,629
there's sand there and if you dig away

2201
01:44:10,649 --> 01:44:09,429
the sand you'll find the remains of

2202
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:10,659
ruinous Fink's

2203
01:44:15,509 --> 01:44:12,610
now the Egyptians have not allowed that

2204
01:44:18,719 --> 01:44:15,519
either way but I'm not convinced there's

2205
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:18,729
a Sphinx there either it's almost to the

2206
01:44:24,569 --> 01:44:22,570
point where you can look at in a rock on

2207
01:44:26,729 --> 01:44:24,579
the Giza Plateau and say well this was

2208
01:44:29,580 --> 01:44:26,739
once a sphinx but so erode it we can't

2209
01:44:31,189 --> 01:44:29,590
really tell one way or another I'm not

2210
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:31,199
trying to make fun of anyone but

2211
01:44:36,299 --> 01:44:33,489
sometimes I feel like it gets to that

2212
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:36,309
point now more seriously so I don't

2213
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:39,010
think either just do

2214
01:44:42,779 --> 01:44:41,050
or due south of the Sphinx I just don't

2215
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:42,789
think there's a lot of evidence for that

2216
01:44:48,509 --> 01:44:45,010
more seriously

2217
01:44:50,669 --> 01:44:48,519
I have often personally speculated my

2218
01:44:54,930 --> 01:44:50,679
own mind not necessarily in print or

2219
01:44:58,379 --> 01:44:54,940
publicly but I'll say it here mmm could

2220
01:44:59,609 --> 01:44:58,389
there be a sphinx on the western edge of

2221
01:45:03,209 --> 01:44:59,619
the Giza Plateau

2222
01:45:06,450 --> 01:45:03,219
facing west bingo that's word has to be

2223
01:45:08,879 --> 01:45:06,460
I this okay I want your answer but let

2224
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:08,889
me tell you where I've speculated is I

2225
01:45:17,700 --> 01:45:14,050
look at it if you lay it out where it

2226
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:17,710
would be identical to symmetrically I

2227
01:45:24,870 --> 01:45:21,130
should say and if you feel yeah so let

2228
01:45:27,089 --> 01:45:24,880
you know in front of the middle pyramid

2229
01:45:30,359 --> 01:45:27,099
where you know it's facing west and

2230
01:45:31,379 --> 01:45:30,369
facing Cairo so but if you go back up

2231
01:45:33,959 --> 01:45:31,389
and you look at the Great Pyramid

2232
01:45:35,879 --> 01:45:33,969
there's an empty spot in the desert

2233
01:45:39,330 --> 01:45:35,889
right there

2234
01:45:42,330 --> 01:45:39,340
and if you put this the Sphinx where it

2235
01:45:45,899 --> 01:45:42,340
should be behind the west side of the

2236
01:45:48,870 --> 01:45:45,909
the Great Pyramid facing west

2237
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:48,880
where the you know the Great Sphinx yeah

2238
01:45:54,419 --> 01:45:51,250
it faces east there's a spot right there

2239
01:45:56,729 --> 01:45:54,429
and symmetrically it lays out perfectly

2240
01:45:58,379 --> 01:45:56,739
yeah I know what you're talking about so

2241
01:46:01,140 --> 01:45:58,389
you and I have been thinking along the

2242
01:46:04,290 --> 01:46:01,150
same lines because you'd have if you had

2243
01:46:06,419 --> 01:46:04,300
one there facing west and then you have

2244
01:46:08,580 --> 01:46:06,429
the current one which faces East I think

2245
01:46:11,100 --> 01:46:08,590
you just got backwards a second ago it

2246
01:46:13,140 --> 01:46:11,110
faces east troy cairo faces these and

2247
01:46:17,459 --> 01:46:13,150
faces east toward the nile and then

2248
01:46:20,100 --> 01:46:17,469
cairo proper is across the nile yeah i

2249
01:46:22,740 --> 01:46:20,110
think that if there's a physical sphinx

2250
01:46:25,620 --> 01:46:22,750
on the ground if there was or if there

2251
01:46:27,540 --> 01:46:25,630
still is the remains I think around in

2252
01:46:30,689 --> 01:46:27,550
that area would be the most logical

2253
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:30,699
place it just makes sense to me yeah

2254
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:33,610
yeah as far as this symmetry goes also

2255
01:46:38,609 --> 01:46:36,250
when you look at the iconography of

2256
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:38,619
sphinxes in Egypt no we're talking

2257
01:46:45,689 --> 01:46:42,610
dynastic times right uh they're usually

2258
01:46:48,089 --> 01:46:45,699
often there they're back to back when

2259
01:46:49,879 --> 01:46:48,099
you look at the Stella the Tut Moses the

2260
01:46:52,870 --> 01:46:49,889
fourth the so-called dream Stella

2261
01:46:55,570 --> 01:46:52,880
between the paws of the Sphinx there

2262
01:46:58,810 --> 01:46:55,580
to Sphynx us on it and they are

2263
01:46:59,790 --> 01:46:58,820
back-to-back one faces east one faces

2264
01:47:03,990 --> 01:46:59,800
west

2265
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:04,000
how would you now there's two other

2266
01:47:07,149 --> 01:47:06,050
possibilities I think that we should

2267
01:47:13,169 --> 01:47:07,159
discuss but go ahead

2268
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:16,689
you know the problem with sand is sand

2269
01:47:23,500 --> 01:47:20,449
is heavy sand is expensive to move sand

2270
01:47:26,169 --> 01:47:23,510
is actually even more difficult to deal

2271
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:26,179
with in some cases than digging into

2272
01:47:32,740 --> 01:47:29,449
normal soil and earth because sand when

2273
01:47:34,770 --> 01:47:32,750
you if you tried to excavate in sand it

2274
01:47:37,930 --> 01:47:34,780
collapses in on you right

2275
01:47:41,890 --> 01:47:37,940
so it's really really dangerous when

2276
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:41,900
they excavated the Sphinx back in the

2277
01:47:47,379 --> 01:47:44,210
nineteenth century for the first time

2278
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:47,389
literally they recorded how they would

2279
01:47:55,030 --> 01:47:50,449
excavate all this sand and by the next

2280
01:47:57,970 --> 01:47:55,040
day overnight naturally half of it would

2281
01:48:00,129 --> 01:47:57,980
glow back in right right and and it's

2282
01:48:02,110 --> 01:48:00,139
really difficult to deal with it's also

2283
01:48:04,209 --> 01:48:02,120
very difficult I don't know if you've

2284
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:04,219
even heard little things when people

2285
01:48:08,919 --> 01:48:07,010
build sand castles and whatnot on the

2286
01:48:11,020 --> 01:48:08,929
beach I mean I'm being literal now

2287
01:48:13,990 --> 01:48:11,030
they'll dig holes sometimes they'll go

2288
01:48:15,970 --> 01:48:14,000
into it they'll stand in it up to their

2289
01:48:20,290 --> 01:48:15,980
chest that type of thing sometimes it

2290
01:48:22,810 --> 01:48:20,300
collapses in and it kills people we eat

2291
01:48:27,820 --> 01:48:22,820
on musk to build us a giant vacuum

2292
01:48:30,939 --> 01:48:27,830
cleaner and so and have like and I'm not

2293
01:48:33,459 --> 01:48:30,949
kidding maybe you know a long vacuum

2294
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:33,469
cleaner hose you know I don't know yeah

2295
01:48:37,330 --> 01:48:34,850
and then you have to have someplace to

2296
01:48:40,870 --> 01:48:37,340
dump it right a mile you're continuously

2297
01:48:42,700 --> 01:48:40,880
dump it right when yeah when they they

2298
01:48:44,530 --> 01:48:42,710
sort of tried to do that in the 19th

2299
01:48:46,870 --> 01:48:44,540
century not as a vacuum cleaner but they

2300
01:48:49,810 --> 01:48:46,880
literally when they were excavating the

2301
01:48:53,110 --> 01:48:49,820
Sphinx for the first time really doing a

2302
01:48:57,270 --> 01:48:53,120
full excavation they had so much sand to

2303
01:48:59,979 --> 01:48:57,280
deal with they had they set up tracks

2304
01:49:02,620 --> 01:48:59,989
you know like when you used to do mining

2305
01:49:06,010 --> 01:49:02,630
with little cars on them right carry

2306
01:49:06,510 --> 01:49:06,020
away the sand as quick as they could yes

2307
01:49:09,210 --> 01:49:06,520
quick

2308
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:09,220
they good yeah cuz there was so much so

2309
01:49:13,650 --> 01:49:10,690
much to deal with they would just

2310
01:49:15,180 --> 01:49:13,660
literally sort of like if you think of

2311
01:49:17,610 --> 01:49:15,190
when they mined coal and they have the

2312
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:17,620
little tracks and they're not that

2313
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:22,090
little no for mining coal or for any

2314
01:49:26,790 --> 01:49:24,130
kind of mining operation they had to do

2315
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:26,800
that yeah but yeah I I've often thought

2316
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:28,690
that's where a second sinks could be

2317
01:49:34,260 --> 01:49:32,290
physically and there is now when we come

2318
01:49:38,070 --> 01:49:34,270
back off of the break where I want to

2319
01:49:39,980 --> 01:49:38,080
talk about Khufu and and that hoax okay

2320
01:49:44,190 --> 01:49:39,990
we're gonna visit that in a second but

2321
01:49:47,100 --> 01:49:44,200
because of the discoveries of the

2322
01:49:49,830 --> 01:49:47,110
different camps the cooking the sleeping

2323
01:49:53,130 --> 01:49:49,840
the families you know allegedly for the

2324
01:49:55,860 --> 01:49:53,140
construction of the pyramid all of this

2325
01:49:59,370 --> 01:49:55,870
was is recent discoveries we didn't know

2326
01:50:02,370 --> 01:49:59,380
about this a hundred years ago and why

2327
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:02,380
because it was buried it was all bare

2328
01:50:08,790 --> 01:50:06,610
understand yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly

2329
01:50:11,190 --> 01:50:08,800
but but before we do that can I mention

2330
01:50:12,870 --> 01:50:11,200
the two other possibilities for a second

2331
01:50:15,930 --> 01:50:12,880
oh yeah yeah that was my fault

2332
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:15,940
yeah yeah two other possibilities one

2333
01:50:21,210 --> 01:50:18,850
and and we actually talked about these

2334
01:50:23,580 --> 01:50:21,220
are Robert Bauval particular in his

2335
01:50:26,900 --> 01:50:23,590
section talks about it in ordinances

2336
01:50:29,250 --> 01:50:26,910
Fink's he mentions very briefly that

2337
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:29,260
something else that has been suggested

2338
01:50:36,690 --> 01:50:32,890
is there might have been a sphinx on the

2339
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:36,700
other side of the nile facing toward the

2340
01:50:43,050 --> 01:50:39,970
nile so facing west but on the east side

2341
01:50:45,690 --> 01:50:43,060
of the Nile but facing west just as the

2342
01:50:48,480 --> 01:50:45,700
current Sphinx is on the western side

2343
01:50:51,780 --> 01:50:48,490
and faces east toward the Nile so that

2344
01:50:54,750 --> 01:50:51,790
they would be facing each other but Sir

2345
01:50:58,020 --> 01:50:54,760
Flinders Petrie the great Egyptologist

2346
01:51:00,890 --> 01:50:58,030
of the late 19th early 20th century he

2347
01:51:03,810 --> 01:51:00,900
searched for it when there was much less

2348
01:51:06,180 --> 01:51:03,820
commercial build-up that type of thing

2349
01:51:09,650 --> 01:51:06,190
right and never found any evidence for

2350
01:51:12,090 --> 01:51:09,660
his Fink's then number five the fifth

2351
01:51:14,940 --> 01:51:12,100
possibility and actually the fifth

2352
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:14,950
possibilities does not preclude a second

2353
01:51:20,330 --> 01:51:18,850
Sphinx on the ground but I personally do

2354
01:51:22,810 --> 01:51:20,340
believe in quote the

2355
01:51:26,450 --> 01:51:22,820
possibility which is that the Sphinx

2356
01:51:31,070 --> 01:51:26,460
faces due east on the equinoxes

2357
01:51:34,459 --> 01:51:31,080
absolutely faces east and going back to

2358
01:51:37,879 --> 01:51:34,469
our magical number about 10,000 BC that

2359
01:51:41,709 --> 01:51:37,889
was the age of Leo and the Sphinx was

2360
01:51:45,410 --> 01:51:41,719
facing Leo in the sky on the equinox

2361
01:51:50,209 --> 01:51:45,420
during the age of Leo so in a sense this

2362
01:51:52,580 --> 01:51:50,219
there is a second Sphinx in the sky that

2363
01:51:55,700 --> 01:51:52,590
corresponds to the Sphinx on the ground

2364
01:51:58,820 --> 01:51:55,710
but what okay all right all right that

2365
01:52:01,939 --> 01:51:58,830
that's interesting but let's go back to

2366
01:52:05,120 --> 01:52:01,949
our original theory here if there is

2367
01:52:07,879 --> 01:52:05,130
west of the Great Pyramid facing west

2368
01:52:12,430 --> 01:52:07,889
a second Sphinx out there in the desert

2369
01:52:16,790 --> 01:52:12,440
right yeah what would be the

2370
01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:16,800
constellation or zodiac sign at ten

2371
01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:20,130
thousand five it's facing east it's

2372
01:52:27,709 --> 01:52:24,050
Taurus we understand that right or no

2373
01:52:31,820 --> 01:52:27,719
10,000 and you're talking H of Leo yeah

2374
01:52:37,689 --> 01:52:31,830
it's Leo going east what would be facing

2375
01:52:42,530 --> 01:52:40,700
Aquarius Aquarius aha now that's

2376
01:52:49,729 --> 01:52:42,540
interest it makes sense

2377
01:52:51,500 --> 01:52:49,739
yes it does we find the second Sphinx we

2378
01:52:54,770 --> 01:52:51,510
got to put a fade to black t-shirt on

2379
01:52:57,740 --> 01:52:54,780
that Sphinx I'm well you might need a

2380
01:52:59,780 --> 01:52:57,750
big t-shirt yeah it would be but I would

2381
01:53:02,450 --> 01:52:59,790
do it I would do it but there's

2382
01:53:04,310 --> 01:53:02,460
something the more I've looked at so

2383
01:53:07,250 --> 01:53:04,320
much satellite imaging just like you

2384
01:53:09,890 --> 01:53:07,260
have dr. Schaack and I'm telling you it

2385
01:53:12,740 --> 01:53:09,900
looks like there is something there and

2386
01:53:14,629 --> 01:53:12,750
if you go with the symmetry it it just

2387
01:53:16,910 --> 01:53:14,639
feels like there is something in that

2388
01:53:19,100 --> 01:53:16,920
part of the does yeah no no I agree with

2389
01:53:21,530 --> 01:53:19,110
you I agree with you we've we've been

2390
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:21,540
obviously thinking along the same same

2391
01:53:30,939 --> 01:53:27,690
lines for that and going again south and

2392
01:53:33,270 --> 01:53:30,949
west of the Giza Plateau if you look at

2393
01:53:35,550 --> 01:53:33,280
not only the alignment with

2394
01:53:38,730 --> 01:53:35,560
Ryan of course with the three that are

2395
01:53:41,810 --> 01:53:38,740
there but it looks like the the complex

2396
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:41,820
to me just continued is there any

2397
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:45,730
archeology going on south and west of

2398
01:53:52,650 --> 01:53:49,330
Giza continual or is it just is it just

2399
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:52,660
nothing going on out there no you mean

2400
01:53:58,200 --> 01:53:55,690
modern archaeology Marty right now is

2401
01:54:01,500 --> 01:53:58,210
anybody right well I mean the last I

2402
01:54:04,020 --> 01:54:01,510
understood is that they are I don't want

2403
01:54:06,330 --> 01:54:04,030
to say closing down concessions that's

2404
01:54:10,230 --> 01:54:06,340
their term for it but they're not

2405
01:54:13,940 --> 01:54:10,240
allowing new projects to start as far as

2406
01:54:16,230 --> 01:54:13,950
actual excavation that type of thing

2407
01:54:18,540 --> 01:54:16,240
which is interesting

2408
01:54:22,550 --> 01:54:18,550
see when I went to I won't get into the

2409
01:54:25,260 --> 01:54:22,560
chamber the first thing I would do which

2410
01:54:27,450 --> 01:54:25,270
from talking speaking with the Archaea

2411
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:27,460
with archaeologists with the Egyptian

2412
01:54:31,740 --> 01:54:29,530
authorities they would allow is I would

2413
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:31,750
do more geophysics etc which is not

2414
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:35,050
actual excavation right but right now

2415
01:54:42,930 --> 01:54:39,250
they are really putting a damper on

2416
01:54:45,260 --> 01:54:42,940
actual excavation why you know before I

2417
01:54:48,420 --> 01:54:45,270
say you know they were afraid of

2418
01:54:51,230 --> 01:54:48,430
revealing stuff but but why is it why it

2419
01:54:55,350 --> 01:54:51,240
shouldn't they be encouraging just that

2420
01:54:59,450 --> 01:54:55,360
well it gets into politics again that

2421
01:55:04,860 --> 01:54:59,460
type of thing and it also gets into the

2422
01:55:11,190 --> 01:55:04,870
how should we say the the real problems

2423
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:11,200
with the whole situation in Egypt I mean

2424
01:55:15,500 --> 01:55:13,170
it's gone through these revolutions and

2425
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:15,510
counter-revolutions it's very unstable

2426
01:55:22,350 --> 01:55:19,690
recently there's been ambushes and Egypt

2427
01:55:25,770 --> 01:55:22,360
recently there's and bombs going off and

2428
01:55:28,110 --> 01:55:25,780
I think that and I'm going to defend

2429
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:28,120
them too much in some ways but I think

2430
01:55:33,060 --> 01:55:30,850
there is something genuine to be said

2431
01:55:35,700 --> 01:55:33,070
that they don't want to start opening up

2432
01:55:38,970 --> 01:55:35,710
new projects and having more artifacts

2433
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:38,980
and antiquities exposed under such

2434
01:55:43,650 --> 01:55:42,010
unstable conditions so I interviewed

2435
01:55:45,589 --> 01:55:43,660
Josh gates

2436
01:55:48,229 --> 01:55:45,599
this past Saturday

2437
01:55:50,149 --> 01:55:48,239
on coast-to-coast from Cairo right he's

2438
01:55:50,870 --> 01:55:50,159
there for a couple of weeks filming his

2439
01:55:52,879 --> 01:55:50,880
new show

2440
01:55:54,830 --> 01:55:52,889
and I said so what's it like out there

2441
01:55:57,140 --> 01:55:54,840
were tourism and this is what he said to

2442
01:56:01,250 --> 01:55:57,150
me on Saturday night on coast-to-coast

2443
01:56:05,180 --> 01:56:01,260
he said if you went out to the Great

2444
01:56:07,430 --> 01:56:05,190
Pyramid you would be the only person in

2445
01:56:09,319 --> 01:56:07,440
the King's Chamber you would be a oh

2446
01:56:11,089 --> 01:56:09,329
yeah yeah yeah yeah that's what I've

2447
01:56:14,890 --> 01:56:11,099
experienced I was there earlier this

2448
01:56:19,010 --> 01:56:14,900
year it's it's tourism as it's gone I

2449
01:56:22,310 --> 01:56:19,020
yeah I have not seen such a low in

2450
01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:22,320
tourism my trips back and forth to Egypt

2451
01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:25,170
since the what did they call it the

2452
01:56:30,169 --> 01:56:26,130
first Gulf War

2453
01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:30,179
right yeah he said yeah he said that you

2454
01:56:34,790 --> 01:56:32,250
know ten years ago when he went out

2455
01:56:37,310 --> 01:56:34,800
there that there would literally be 20

2456
01:56:41,089 --> 01:56:37,320
or 30 thousand people a day out there

2457
01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:41,099
trying to he said today all day long on

2458
01:56:45,939 --> 01:56:43,650
the plateau maybe a thousand people and

2459
01:56:48,890 --> 01:56:45,949
he said Jimmy it is so big and so vast

2460
01:56:51,229 --> 01:56:48,900
when I say a thousand people you're

2461
01:56:53,959 --> 01:56:51,239
alone yeah you're alone

2462
01:56:57,919 --> 01:56:53,969
absolutely yeah that's what we that's

2463
01:57:00,589 --> 01:56:57,929
what I experienced my last time I was

2464
01:57:02,930 --> 01:57:00,599
there earlier this year that's what John

2465
01:57:06,770 --> 01:57:02,940
Anthony West and Katie and I experienced

2466
01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:06,780
when we were there in the summer of 20

2467
01:57:11,479 --> 01:57:08,730
we were there for extended period of

2468
01:57:15,129 --> 01:57:11,489
time and it it was just absolutely

2469
01:57:17,870 --> 01:57:15,139
amazing compared to what it used to be

2470
01:57:20,660 --> 01:57:17,880
you know there's so many camels out of

2471
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:20,670
work and I'm not said joking no no I

2472
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:22,770
that's not the camels and they're not

2473
01:57:28,010 --> 01:57:25,770
being fed properly because the camel

2474
01:57:31,819 --> 01:57:28,020
drivers the owners aren't getting the

2475
01:57:34,399 --> 01:57:31,829
customers that they need when you go to

2476
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:34,409
middle and upper egypt they have the

2477
01:57:39,319 --> 01:57:37,290
boats that cruise and isles right cruise

2478
01:57:42,680 --> 01:57:39,329
the nile they're made just to cruise the

2479
01:57:45,709 --> 01:57:42,690
nile and the vast majority of them are

2480
01:57:49,250 --> 01:57:45,719
now mocked bald and rotting away because

2481
01:57:52,250 --> 01:57:49,260
you know boat needs to be maintained and

2482
01:57:54,260 --> 01:57:52,260
so it's not and you can't just pull them

2483
01:57:55,970 --> 01:57:54,270
out mothballs when they get pulled out

2484
01:57:58,760 --> 01:57:55,980
again they have to put a lot of money

2485
01:57:59,450 --> 01:57:58,770
into refurbishing them right so it's

2486
01:58:02,240 --> 01:57:59,460
real

2487
01:58:04,430 --> 01:58:02,250
hard on the Egyptians and the Egyptian

2488
01:58:07,010 --> 01:58:04,440
economy and they you know that's they

2489
01:58:10,670 --> 01:58:07,020
they love tourism you know oh they love

2490
01:58:13,580 --> 01:58:10,680
tourism we were that filling which is in

2491
01:58:16,550 --> 01:58:13,590
Upper Egypt it's you know where the

2492
01:58:19,850 --> 01:58:16,560
Temple of Isis is it's a beautiful

2493
01:58:21,860 --> 01:58:19,860
temple and when I've been there before

2494
01:58:24,170 --> 01:58:21,870
there'd be dozens of vendors there was

2495
01:58:25,610 --> 01:58:24,180
not a single vendor this last time we

2496
01:58:27,680 --> 01:58:25,620
got to take a break right here dr.

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01:58:31,669 --> 01:58:27,690
Schaack we'll be right back this is fade

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guest tonight dr. Robert Schoch now in

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02:03:14,480 --> 02:03:12,120
there's a few things that that I find

2592
02:03:18,620 --> 02:03:14,490
interesting in the origins of the Sphinx

2593
02:03:21,140 --> 02:03:18,630
of talking about Khafre or Khufu however

2594
02:03:24,070 --> 02:03:21,150
you want to put it you pointed out

2595
02:03:30,020 --> 02:03:24,080
earlier the dream Stella there's also

2596
02:03:32,150 --> 02:03:30,030
the inventory Stella and which is you

2597
02:03:34,220 --> 02:03:32,160
know they've got that sealed up and I

2598
02:03:37,040 --> 02:03:34,230
don't you know that's not for public

2599
02:03:39,080 --> 02:03:37,050
consumption and I think this is my take

2600
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:39,090
the reason for that is because on the

2601
02:03:48,770 --> 02:03:43,770
inventory Stella Khufu specifically says

2602
02:03:51,050 --> 02:03:48,780
he's there to hang out and repair the

2603
02:03:53,150 --> 02:03:51,060
Great Pyramid yeah exactly he's

2604
02:03:55,580 --> 02:03:53,160
repairing the Sphinx he's repairing the

2605
02:03:57,620 --> 02:03:55,590
Great Pyramid he's building his own

2606
02:04:00,830 --> 02:03:57,630
structures in the shadow if you would

2607
02:04:02,750 --> 02:04:00,840
have the Great Pyramid he talked at the

2608
02:04:04,550 --> 02:04:02,760
inventory still I mentioned this early

2609
02:04:06,380 --> 02:04:04,560
in the show it talks about the Sphinx

2610
02:04:08,450 --> 02:04:06,390
being very ancient and having been

2611
02:04:10,550 --> 02:04:08,460
struck by lightning which I believe has

2612
02:04:12,830 --> 02:04:10,560
to do with the solar outburst at the end

2613
02:04:15,350 --> 02:04:12,840
of the last ice age lies right in with

2614
02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:15,360
the Sphinx dating back to about 10,000

2615
02:04:22,760 --> 02:04:19,290
10,500 BC or more so the inventory

2616
02:04:25,730 --> 02:04:22,770
Stella in particular is a really

2617
02:04:29,630 --> 02:04:25,740
powerful argument if you take it

2618
02:04:31,490 --> 02:04:29,640
seriously for the Sphinx and the Great

2619
02:04:35,170 --> 02:04:31,500
Pyramid other structures on the Giza

2620
02:04:39,260 --> 02:04:35,180
Plateau going back to a much much more

2621
02:04:41,470 --> 02:04:39,270
remote time period you know going back

2622
02:04:45,040 --> 02:04:41,480
literally thousands of years so the

2623
02:04:48,350 --> 02:04:45,050
ancient Egyptians are talking about

2624
02:04:51,320 --> 02:04:48,360
these structures going back to this

2625
02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:51,330
remote period now the problem with

2626
02:04:55,700 --> 02:04:53,450
inventory Stella Trudy

2627
02:04:58,330 --> 02:04:55,710
historically has been and I'm saying

2628
02:05:01,400 --> 02:04:58,340
modern history now is that a lot of

2629
02:05:04,940 --> 02:05:01,410
Egyptologists have not went to accept it

2630
02:05:07,490 --> 02:05:04,950
they refer to it as essentially what we

2631
02:05:09,350 --> 02:05:07,500
could call pious fraud that it's

2632
02:05:14,930 --> 02:05:09,360
something that the dynastic Egyptians

2633
02:05:18,440 --> 02:05:14,940
made up to give no more cachet to give

2634
02:05:20,960 --> 02:05:18,450
more credibility to their structures so

2635
02:05:23,810 --> 02:05:20,970
you know you date it back and say it's

2636
02:05:28,670 --> 02:05:23,820
older than it really is that's a classic

2637
02:05:31,870 --> 02:05:28,680
modern conventional Egypt and logical

2638
02:05:35,860 --> 02:05:31,880
interpretation of it that's basically

2639
02:05:39,380 --> 02:05:35,870
it's an excu it's an exclusive

2640
02:05:41,720 --> 02:05:39,390
I you know the thing is they don't say

2641
02:05:44,540 --> 02:05:41,730
that about anything that says what they

2642
02:05:49,190 --> 02:05:44,550
want to hear they only say that about

2643
02:05:51,170 --> 02:05:49,200
what they don't want to hear I hate to

2644
02:05:53,300 --> 02:05:51,180
bring modern politics into it but I

2645
02:05:55,580 --> 02:05:53,310
serve if you don't like something you

2646
02:05:57,680 --> 02:05:55,590
call fake news if you don't something

2647
02:05:59,750 --> 02:05:57,690
like something in Egyptology you say

2648
02:06:03,320 --> 02:05:59,760
that they faked it the ancient Egyptians

2649
02:06:06,380 --> 02:06:03,330
faked it have you had an opportunity to

2650
02:06:09,350 --> 02:06:06,390
go into the upper chambers above the

2651
02:06:11,540 --> 02:06:09,360
king's chamber oh yeah yeah I've been up

2652
02:06:13,220 --> 02:06:11,550
into the relief chambers as they're

2653
02:06:16,640 --> 02:06:13,230
called or relieving chambers the

2654
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:16,650
chambers where the inscriptions are very

2655
02:06:24,740 --> 02:06:20,010
very interesting now okay I want your

2656
02:06:26,330 --> 02:06:24,750
assessment okay you know what since

2657
02:06:30,890 --> 02:06:26,340
we're just talking Frank here do you

2658
02:06:32,330 --> 02:06:30,900
think they're modern forgeries no I mean

2659
02:06:34,940 --> 02:06:32,340
I'll tell you bluntly I don't think

2660
02:06:36,920 --> 02:06:34,950
they're modern forgeries I know some

2661
02:06:40,100 --> 02:06:36,930
people argue that they're modern forgery

2662
02:06:43,160 --> 02:06:40,110
there's been even more recent discussion

2663
02:06:46,940 --> 02:06:43,170
of this what I think is going on is that

2664
02:06:49,400 --> 02:06:46,950
they are genuinely ancient and I don't

2665
02:06:52,610 --> 02:06:49,410
personally have any doubt that they're

2666
02:06:56,630 --> 02:06:52,620
ancient but I also don't think they date

2667
02:06:59,510 --> 02:06:56,640
the pyramid to the reign of Khufu it's

2668
02:07:02,000 --> 02:06:59,520
there's a cartouche of Khufu there's

2669
02:07:06,830 --> 02:07:02,010
other cartoonists that say kunam kook

2670
02:07:08,990 --> 02:07:06,840
basically which may be referring to

2671
02:07:11,689 --> 02:07:09,000
one else people argue about whether it

2672
02:07:14,780 --> 02:07:11,699
is or it isn't and also I think that the

2673
02:07:17,870 --> 02:07:14,790
relief chambers where they are found are

2674
02:07:21,200 --> 02:07:17,880
a later addition a much later addition

2675
02:07:23,750 --> 02:07:21,210
to the Great Pyramid I've long been of

2676
02:07:26,479 --> 02:07:23,760
the opinion that the Great Pyramid is

2677
02:07:29,330 --> 02:07:26,489
something that was built it was rebuilt

2678
02:07:34,250 --> 02:07:29,340
it was built in stages it was restored

2679
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:34,260
at various times and what my personal

2680
02:07:39,709 --> 02:07:37,770
interpretation of those inscriptions and

2681
02:07:42,700 --> 02:07:39,719
the cartouche is that you find up there

2682
02:07:46,160 --> 02:07:42,710
is that they are effectively a later

2683
02:07:50,240 --> 02:07:46,170
restoration if you would or a later

2684
02:07:54,109 --> 02:07:50,250
addition that's another way to put it we

2685
02:07:58,850 --> 02:07:54,119
explain back to ancient times yes plane

2686
02:08:02,180 --> 02:07:58,860
which 1918 not dating the Great Pyramids

2687
02:08:05,330 --> 02:08:02,190
origins I'm trying to I love when I

2688
02:08:08,149 --> 02:08:05,340
learned something so explain to me what

2689
02:08:13,550 --> 02:08:08,159
you mean when you say restoration in

2690
02:08:17,149 --> 02:08:13,560
ancient times well let me let me give a

2691
02:08:20,810 --> 02:08:17,159
little more context there is no doubt in

2692
02:08:24,140 --> 02:08:20,820
my mind whatsoever that the Great Sphinx

2693
02:08:28,310 --> 02:08:24,150
for instance was recarved and restored

2694
02:08:31,430 --> 02:08:28,320
it was a very ancient eroded statue when

2695
02:08:34,250 --> 02:08:31,440
you come to dynastic times five thousand

2696
02:08:36,470 --> 02:08:34,260
to four thousand years ago there's no

2697
02:08:38,899 --> 02:08:36,480
doubt that it was restored they've used

2698
02:08:41,089 --> 02:08:38,909
limestone blocks to restore parts of it

2699
02:08:43,640 --> 02:08:41,099
they recurved the head there's

2700
02:08:46,550 --> 02:08:43,650
absolutely no doubt in my mind based on

2701
02:08:49,790 --> 02:08:46,560
the evidence even zion Hawass has

2702
02:08:52,490 --> 02:08:49,800
admitted that there are four thousand

2703
02:08:58,760 --> 02:08:52,500
plus year old restorations on the Sphinx

2704
02:09:01,189 --> 02:08:58,770
itself but what about the and I know

2705
02:09:04,419 --> 02:09:01,199
you're you're quite familiar with this

2706
02:09:07,520 --> 02:09:04,429
about the Vice the Vice hoax so when we

2707
02:09:10,910 --> 02:09:07,530
yeah but I've looked old I've looked at

2708
02:09:15,290 --> 02:09:10,920
Vice regional material too and I'm not

2709
02:09:18,740 --> 02:09:15,300
convinced he necessarily hoaxed it but

2710
02:09:19,820 --> 02:09:18,750
he did see this is where I think he kind

2711
02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:19,830
of Oh

2712
02:09:30,290 --> 02:09:27,210
the door to his own what he went a

2713
02:09:33,350 --> 02:09:30,300
motive motive yeah yeah because back

2714
02:09:35,810 --> 02:09:33,360
then everybody was trying to put their

2715
02:09:38,180 --> 02:09:35,820
name on a great discovery in Egypt yeah

2716
02:09:40,010 --> 02:09:38,190
that was the goal of the day back then

2717
02:09:42,380 --> 02:09:40,020
yeah yeah and you can see his

2718
02:09:45,860 --> 02:09:42,390
inscriptions up there when you go up

2719
02:09:47,570 --> 02:09:45,870
there those are there but also he fibbed

2720
02:09:52,130 --> 02:09:47,580
a little bit when it came to monk re

2721
02:09:57,110 --> 02:09:52,140
right yeah so yeah and he took it I mean

2722
02:10:00,680 --> 02:09:57,120
he wasn't the most upfront hehe yeah he

2723
02:10:05,000 --> 02:10:00,690
did he I don't want to call him

2724
02:10:07,190 --> 02:10:05,010
dishonest but but on the other hand I am

2725
02:10:08,810 --> 02:10:07,200
not convinced that he did those

2726
02:10:11,600 --> 02:10:08,820
descriptions and there's a couple of

2727
02:10:13,460 --> 02:10:11,610
reasons they they look old to me and I'm

2728
02:10:16,910 --> 02:10:13,470
not just saying they look old when I

2729
02:10:22,310 --> 02:10:16,920
looked at them very very closely I found

2730
02:10:24,860 --> 02:10:22,320
I could see mineral overlays on the

2731
02:10:27,620 --> 02:10:24,870
patinas and mineral growths and whatnot

2732
02:10:31,490 --> 02:10:27,630
which I don't believe are going to have

2733
02:10:34,400 --> 02:10:31,500
occurred since the 1830s or so if he had

2734
02:10:37,730 --> 02:10:34,410
faked them at that point they are also

2735
02:10:40,520 --> 02:10:37,740
cases where they go down you could look

2736
02:10:42,290 --> 02:10:40,530
into cracks and they go down and when

2737
02:10:46,490 --> 02:10:42,300
you look down into the cracks between

2738
02:10:49,220 --> 02:10:46,500
the rocks they go down well into those

2739
02:10:52,460 --> 02:10:49,230
cracks you can see surfaces where they

2740
02:10:57,140 --> 02:10:52,470
still occur when they opened up for

2741
02:10:59,510 --> 02:10:57,150
instance the little star shafts are air

2742
02:11:03,310 --> 02:10:59,520
shafts whatever you want to call them in

2743
02:11:06,470 --> 02:11:03,320
modern times and found other

2744
02:11:09,710 --> 02:11:06,480
inscriptions very crude but they seem to

2745
02:11:11,570 --> 02:11:09,720
match pigmentation wise etc the

2746
02:11:13,220 --> 02:11:11,580
inscriptions that you find in the

2747
02:11:15,710 --> 02:11:13,230
relieving chamber again this is my

2748
02:11:18,260 --> 02:11:15,720
assessment my opinion so I think there's

2749
02:11:21,440 --> 02:11:18,270
a lot of reasons to believe that they

2750
02:11:25,340 --> 02:11:21,450
are genuinely ancient now I would not

2751
02:11:28,220 --> 02:11:25,350
put it past him if he didn't sort of

2752
02:11:30,680 --> 02:11:28,230
patch them up a little bit when you go

2753
02:11:33,570 --> 02:11:30,690
up there they don't necessarily match

2754
02:11:37,260 --> 02:11:33,580
exactly what is published in his

2755
02:11:39,270 --> 02:11:37,270
jon's because I've compared them yep so

2756
02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:39,280
there's a little bit of funny stuff

2757
02:11:46,560 --> 02:11:43,450
going on with him but I'm not convinced

2758
02:11:48,150 --> 02:11:46,570
that he just wholesale faked them so

2759
02:11:51,570 --> 02:11:48,160
game back till I was talking about the

2760
02:11:56,250 --> 02:11:51,580
restorations I'm convinced for instance

2761
02:11:59,310 --> 02:11:56,260
that at one point the Great Pyramid was

2762
02:12:01,560 --> 02:11:59,320
heavily restored in dynastic times and I

2763
02:12:03,330 --> 02:12:01,570
was using the analogy of the Sphinx

2764
02:12:05,640 --> 02:12:03,340
having been heavily restored because I

2765
02:12:08,070 --> 02:12:05,650
think that's even stronger case that

2766
02:12:09,840 --> 02:12:08,080
evens i wass agreed with it although he

2767
02:12:14,490 --> 02:12:09,850
disagrees with me on so many things

2768
02:12:17,490 --> 02:12:14,500
right uh and at one point it seems to

2769
02:12:21,630 --> 02:12:17,500
have been built up to about the 50th

2770
02:12:25,140 --> 02:12:21,640
level which is essentially the top of

2771
02:12:27,780 --> 02:12:25,150
the Grand Gallery but not the King's

2772
02:12:30,090 --> 02:12:27,790
Chamber and the King's Chamber seems to

2773
02:12:33,860 --> 02:12:30,100
have been either built or rebuilt after

2774
02:12:37,490 --> 02:12:33,870
that and then the casing stone that

2775
02:12:42,350 --> 02:12:37,500
existed on the Great Pyramid up until

2776
02:12:45,480 --> 02:12:42,360
medieval early modern times was added

2777
02:12:48,240 --> 02:12:45,490
likewise the second pyramid which is

2778
02:12:49,830 --> 02:12:48,250
almost as big as the Great Pyramid seems

2779
02:12:52,620 --> 02:12:49,840
to have been refurbished and very

2780
02:12:55,230 --> 02:12:52,630
interesting Lee around the second

2781
02:12:59,040 --> 02:12:55,240
pyramid to this day you can see the ring

2782
02:13:01,800 --> 02:12:59,050
of granite granite was used to show that

2783
02:13:06,060 --> 02:13:01,810
something was being restored this is

2784
02:13:07,760 --> 02:13:06,070
even accepted by standard Egyptologists

2785
02:13:10,800 --> 02:13:07,770
so it's got a ring around the granite

2786
02:13:14,940 --> 02:13:10,810
ring around the base of red granite

2787
02:13:19,770 --> 02:13:14,950
aswan granite indicative of restoration

2788
02:13:21,630 --> 02:13:19,780
the chamber the King's Chamber what is

2789
02:13:23,300 --> 02:13:21,640
it lined with it's lined with red

2790
02:13:27,180 --> 02:13:23,310
granite which would also suggest

2791
02:13:31,050 --> 02:13:27,190
dynastic restoration or at least some

2792
02:13:33,030 --> 02:13:31,060
early restoration dynastic are probably

2793
02:13:36,000 --> 02:13:33,040
very early dynastic maybe late

2794
02:13:40,470 --> 02:13:36,010
pre-dynastic I'm articulating here by

2795
02:13:43,410 --> 02:13:40,480
Kufa possibly by Khufu but possibly not

2796
02:13:45,750 --> 02:13:43,420
by Khufu possibly some of it what came

2797
02:13:46,890 --> 02:13:45,760
even earlier and then Khufu added his

2798
02:13:50,209 --> 02:13:46,900
name to some of the

2799
02:13:52,530 --> 02:13:50,219
later or did some further work later

2800
02:13:56,640 --> 02:13:52,540
which would actually be tying in with

2801
02:14:00,050 --> 02:13:56,650
inventory Stella that he did have a hand

2802
02:14:03,090 --> 02:14:00,060
in doing some kind of restoration or

2803
02:14:06,090 --> 02:14:03,100
veneration if we if you would to

2804
02:14:08,370 --> 02:14:06,100
pre-existing structure that we now call

2805
02:14:10,380 --> 02:14:08,380
the Great Pyramid so when we're dealing

2806
02:14:12,689 --> 02:14:10,390
with the what they call the graffiti

2807
02:14:14,880 --> 02:14:12,699
right in the relief chambers you know

2808
02:14:17,970 --> 02:14:14,890
why and before I forget

2809
02:14:20,729 --> 02:14:17,980
remember the classical authors they

2810
02:14:23,610 --> 02:14:20,739
talked about there being graffiti all

2811
02:14:28,850 --> 02:14:23,620
over the Great Pyramid which has now

2812
02:14:30,959 --> 02:14:28,860
been lost well why not if if the

2813
02:14:33,689 --> 02:14:30,969
Egyptologists are gonna stick to their

2814
02:14:36,300 --> 02:14:33,699
guns and Khufu built this pyramid in 20

2815
02:14:39,479 --> 02:14:36,310
years yeah I think they oversimplify the

2816
02:14:42,979 --> 02:14:39,489
situation greatly okay but but why isn't

2817
02:14:47,310 --> 02:14:42,989
there a Khufu cartouche somewhere on the

2818
02:14:51,510 --> 02:14:47,320
inside somewhere carved in relief it's a

2819
02:14:55,680 --> 02:14:51,520
doll exists well well I would say

2820
02:14:58,800 --> 02:14:55,690
because Khufu did not really build the

2821
02:15:01,680 --> 02:14:58,810
Great Pyramid he was just restoring etc

2822
02:15:03,540 --> 02:15:01,690
and at that point he didn't want to you

2823
02:15:06,450 --> 02:15:03,550
know if you're talking about an ancient

2824
02:15:12,060 --> 02:15:06,460
we'll call ancient sacred structure that

2825
02:15:15,030 --> 02:15:12,070
would be defamation basically exactly so

2826
02:15:18,540 --> 02:15:15,040
let's let's discuss this theory if the

2827
02:15:20,880 --> 02:15:18,550
Sphinx is older than it is and I think

2828
02:15:23,550 --> 02:15:20,890
you know let's just say that it is let's

2829
02:15:27,780 --> 02:15:23,560
go back okay let but you remember who

2830
02:15:31,919 --> 02:15:27,790
you're talking to there's no question if

2831
02:15:34,770 --> 02:15:31,929
that is the case then do you speculate

2832
02:15:37,410 --> 02:15:34,780
that the pyramids were built at the same

2833
02:15:41,550 --> 02:15:37,420
time as the Sphinx no I don't I

2834
02:15:43,380 --> 02:15:41,560
speculate that the cores of the pyramids

2835
02:15:46,260 --> 02:15:43,390
so this is where you have to be careful

2836
02:15:48,930 --> 02:15:46,270
I speculate that the sites the position

2837
02:15:51,870 --> 02:15:48,940
of the pyramids go back to that remote

2838
02:15:54,899 --> 02:15:51,880
period I speculate and I think good

2839
02:15:57,060 --> 02:15:54,909
speculation based on evidence that what

2840
02:15:59,459 --> 02:15:57,070
we could call the cores of the pyramids

2841
02:16:00,720 --> 02:15:59,469
go back to that the Great Pyramid is

2842
02:16:04,190 --> 02:16:00,730
built on what I call

2843
02:16:06,630 --> 02:16:04,200
other people call a sacred mound the

2844
02:16:09,510 --> 02:16:06,640
subterranean chamber of the Great

2845
02:16:12,870 --> 02:16:09,520
Pyramid the descending passage I think

2846
02:16:16,110 --> 02:16:12,880
is very very early maybe going back to

2847
02:16:18,229 --> 02:16:16,120
when I call Sphinx time so back to the

2848
02:16:21,360 --> 02:16:18,239
end of the last ice age the

2849
02:16:25,500 --> 02:16:21,370
superstructure I believe that we now see

2850
02:16:28,770 --> 02:16:25,510
came later and what we ultimately see as

2851
02:16:30,930 --> 02:16:28,780
a finished pyramid came later still so

2852
02:16:33,900 --> 02:16:30,940
you're talking structures that were

2853
02:16:36,509 --> 02:16:33,910
built in stages I think the same applies

2854
02:16:38,400 --> 02:16:36,519
to the second pyramid as I was starting

2855
02:16:42,480 --> 02:16:38,410
to point out with the granite the

2856
02:16:45,450 --> 02:16:42,490
menkaure pyramid was potentially faced

2857
02:16:48,299 --> 02:16:45,460
completely with red granite which would

2858
02:16:52,259 --> 02:16:48,309
again to me suggests that it was heavily

2859
02:16:56,070 --> 02:16:52,269
restored in early dynastic maybe even

2860
02:16:59,490 --> 02:16:56,080
late pre-dynastic times then if we go to

2861
02:17:02,879 --> 02:16:59,500
- sure it ties in the so-called red

2862
02:17:04,950 --> 02:17:02,889
pyramid or North caromed has what I

2863
02:17:07,160 --> 02:17:04,960
believe and this is something John

2864
02:17:12,299 --> 02:17:07,170
Anthony West and I have worked on

2865
02:17:15,690 --> 02:17:12,309
together has within it what seems to be

2866
02:17:20,040 --> 02:17:15,700
a much older heavily weathered structure

2867
02:17:23,400 --> 02:17:20,050
and it appears that the Imperius elf the

2868
02:17:26,070 --> 02:17:23,410
so-called red pyramid or North pyramid -

2869
02:17:29,430 --> 02:17:26,080
sure which is almost as big as the Giza

2870
02:17:32,610 --> 02:17:29,440
pyramids was built specifically to house

2871
02:17:36,720 --> 02:17:32,620
and protect to surround this older

2872
02:17:39,390 --> 02:17:36,730
structure inside it so I see the current

2873
02:17:42,120 --> 02:17:39,400
pyramids is really being additions or

2874
02:17:45,360 --> 02:17:42,130
add-ons or restorations or structures

2875
02:17:48,450 --> 02:17:45,370
built over and around much older

2876
02:17:52,500 --> 02:17:48,460
structures how do you speculate when you

2877
02:17:55,500 --> 02:17:52,510
look at the the underground chamber of

2878
02:17:58,700 --> 02:17:55,510
the Great Pyramid which is a 300 foot

2879
02:18:03,000 --> 02:17:58,710
descending utterly straight shaft

2880
02:18:06,570 --> 02:18:03,010
utterly straight and utterly aligned

2881
02:18:11,220 --> 02:18:06,580
line it is a line perfectly north-south

2882
02:18:13,479 --> 02:18:11,230
how is that again you've put a lot of

2883
02:18:17,679 --> 02:18:13,489
thought into this how does

2884
02:18:19,660 --> 02:18:17,689
civilization 12,000 years ago where that

2885
02:18:21,580 --> 02:18:19,670
technology absolutely it would be

2886
02:18:23,439 --> 02:18:21,590
impossible to build today I mean nobody

2887
02:18:25,540 --> 02:18:23,449
would want to do yeah and no one no I

2888
02:18:28,540 --> 02:18:25,550
won't point out no one knew how well

2889
02:18:31,479 --> 02:18:28,550
mind it was until about hundred maybe

2890
02:18:34,450 --> 02:18:31,489
150 years ago because we didn't have

2891
02:18:37,570 --> 02:18:34,460
even the technology to measure it

2892
02:18:38,110 --> 02:18:37,580
accurately enough much less carve it out

2893
02:18:40,530 --> 02:18:38,120
of it

2894
02:18:45,009 --> 02:18:40,540
carve it out of bedrock I can't imagine

2895
02:18:49,240 --> 02:18:45,019
the the engineering the tools that were

2896
02:18:51,280 --> 02:18:49,250
used to build to dig through rock this

2897
02:18:54,339 --> 02:18:51,290
is rock everybody this is not dirt it's

2898
02:18:57,250 --> 02:18:54,349
a solid limestone solid limestone 300

2899
02:19:01,089 --> 02:18:57,260
foot shaft at perfect just absolutely

2900
02:19:04,719 --> 02:19:01,099
right angles everything 300 feet down LA

2901
02:19:06,849 --> 02:19:04,729
aligned and you know ten twelve thousand

2902
02:19:12,780 --> 02:19:06,859
years ago I can't wrap my head around it

2903
02:19:16,419 --> 02:19:12,790
no I mean it in a sense I mean it's more

2904
02:19:18,280 --> 02:19:16,429
amazing that it's twelve twelve thousand

2905
02:19:20,709 --> 02:19:18,290
years old approximately and I think it

2906
02:19:25,419 --> 02:19:20,719
is I think that portion of it is sure

2907
02:19:27,339 --> 02:19:25,429
but even if it were a mere four thousand

2908
02:19:28,990 --> 02:19:27,349
five hundred years old which is the

2909
02:19:31,809 --> 02:19:29,000
conventional what the conventional

2910
02:19:33,700 --> 02:19:31,819
Egyptologists say mhm and they serve say

2911
02:19:36,969 --> 02:19:33,710
that to dismiss it oh you know it's not

2912
02:19:38,530 --> 02:19:36,979
as a gold it's only 4500 years old well

2913
02:19:42,129 --> 02:19:38,540
how would you do it four thousand five

2914
02:19:45,820 --> 02:19:42,139
hundred years ago it doesn't solve the

2915
02:19:48,880 --> 02:19:45,830
problem either maybe it wouldn't buy

2916
02:19:51,820 --> 02:19:48,890
into the conventional dating because no

2917
02:19:54,490 --> 02:19:51,830
one could do it till later you

2918
02:19:57,370 --> 02:19:54,500
considered today arguably but certainly

2919
02:19:58,090 --> 02:19:57,380
until very recently there was no concept

2920
02:19:59,710 --> 02:19:58,100
of doing it

2921
02:20:02,950 --> 02:19:59,720
couldn't even measure that was so

2922
02:20:04,900 --> 02:20:02,960
accurate I just it doesn't make sense to

2923
02:20:07,840 --> 02:20:04,910
me we taught we you know look you can

2924
02:20:10,719 --> 02:20:07,850
look at a 480 foot you know a two

2925
02:20:12,340 --> 02:20:10,729
hundred 2.5 million stones and look at

2926
02:20:15,880 --> 02:20:12,350
it and go wow that is absolutely

2927
02:20:18,700 --> 02:20:15,890
incredible it is but that shaft that

2928
02:20:21,969 --> 02:20:18,710
300-foot shaft going through the bedrock

2929
02:20:25,389 --> 02:20:21,979
is what is for most amazing things yeah

2930
02:20:26,511 --> 02:20:25,399
it is it is I just don't know how they

2931
02:20:28,700 --> 02:20:26,521
pull that off

2932
02:20:32,211 --> 02:20:28,710
and we're talking about a step out of

2933
02:20:35,091 --> 02:20:32,221
the Stone Age I mean just a step a step

2934
02:20:36,500 --> 02:20:35,101
out of the Stone Age well I'm not going

2935
02:20:37,070 --> 02:20:36,510
to give you an answer because I don't

2936
02:20:40,700 --> 02:20:37,080
either

2937
02:20:42,261 --> 02:20:40,710
yeah I think and I think that there are

2938
02:20:44,600 --> 02:20:42,271
a lot of things we need to learn from

2939
02:20:46,700 --> 02:20:44,610
them or we'll learn from them hopefully

2940
02:20:49,341 --> 02:20:46,710
maybe some of it's in the chamber under

2941
02:20:51,410 --> 02:20:49,351
the Sphinx I I mean I mean I literally

2942
02:20:53,450 --> 02:20:51,420
am more and more convinced that could be

2943
02:20:54,680 --> 02:20:53,460
a genuine archive that could solve some

2944
02:20:57,560 --> 02:20:54,690
of these problems or at least give us

2945
02:20:59,961 --> 02:20:57,570
answers to some of these things but for

2946
02:21:01,640 --> 02:20:59,971
people to say that all they know how it

2947
02:21:03,440 --> 02:21:01,650
was done but they're not going to tell

2948
02:21:06,080 --> 02:21:03,450
you or something because I've had people

2949
02:21:08,211 --> 02:21:06,090
tell me that right oh they know but

2950
02:21:11,330 --> 02:21:08,221
they're just bluffing I mean that's just

2951
02:21:13,490 --> 02:21:11,340
nonsense I don't think we know now we're

2952
02:21:16,580 --> 02:21:13,500
still a lot we don't know about them and

2953
02:21:18,770 --> 02:21:16,590
they're they were not us they were not

2954
02:21:21,860 --> 02:21:18,780
advanced like we were I don't think they

2955
02:21:23,660 --> 02:21:21,870
had our type of technology back then but

2956
02:21:28,850 --> 02:21:23,670
I think they had something that we can't

2957
02:21:31,040 --> 02:21:28,860
even imagine when we I know let's let's

2958
02:21:35,171 --> 02:21:31,050
keep the a word out of this for a second

2959
02:21:40,631 --> 02:21:35,181
yeah yeah let's well keep the a word out

2960
02:21:43,370 --> 02:21:40,641
but we have to seriously consider a

2961
02:21:46,341 --> 02:21:43,380
civilization that predated not only

2962
02:21:48,890 --> 02:21:46,351
dynastic Egypt but everything because

2963
02:21:52,820 --> 02:21:48,900
gobekli tepe now it comes into play but

2964
02:21:56,270 --> 02:21:52,830
yeah they there was some high technology

2965
02:21:59,330 --> 02:21:56,280
a civilization with that that predates

2966
02:22:02,360 --> 02:21:59,340
everything that was passing this

2967
02:22:04,761 --> 02:22:02,370
knowledge on and they inherited this

2968
02:22:08,000 --> 02:22:04,771
knowledge from those that were before

2969
02:22:09,980 --> 02:22:08,010
them and it yeah it tips everything on

2970
02:22:11,720 --> 02:22:09,990
its ear I understand that but it's the

2971
02:22:13,881 --> 02:22:11,730
only thing that starts to answer these

2972
02:22:17,000 --> 02:22:13,891
questions wrong right right because this

2973
02:22:19,040 --> 02:22:17,010
was it was a peak it would had reached

2974
02:22:20,930 --> 02:22:19,050
some kind of peak I mean I think it

2975
02:22:23,030 --> 02:22:20,940
would have gone even further if it

2976
02:22:24,950 --> 02:22:23,040
hadn't been for the devastation at the

2977
02:22:27,950 --> 02:22:24,960
end of the last ice age that wiped it

2978
02:22:32,511 --> 02:22:27,960
out and threw everything back into a

2979
02:22:35,360 --> 02:22:32,521
dark age but this there had to be a lot

2980
02:22:37,850 --> 02:22:35,370
leading up to that there had to be a lot

2981
02:22:40,560 --> 02:22:37,860
that came before but one of the truisms

2982
02:22:42,620 --> 02:22:40,570
in geology is the further you go back in

2983
02:22:45,961 --> 02:22:42,630
I'm the less and less evidence there is

2984
02:22:48,810 --> 02:22:45,971
and it just gets destroyed or gets

2985
02:22:52,261 --> 02:22:48,820
buried what do you think it's gonna take

2986
02:22:55,830 --> 02:22:52,271
though I mean what is what is the one

2987
02:22:58,370 --> 02:22:55,840
thing that we would be able to show not

2988
02:23:01,020 --> 02:22:58,380
only academia Egyptologist and the

2989
02:23:03,870 --> 02:23:01,030
anthropologists and it on and on and on

2990
02:23:06,660 --> 02:23:03,880
what is it that would tip the scale so

2991
02:23:09,660 --> 02:23:06,670
they would tap out say uncle

2992
02:23:11,700 --> 02:23:09,670
we give you know there is something else

2993
02:23:14,070 --> 02:23:11,710
going on what was i I don't want to keep

2994
02:23:17,070 --> 02:23:14,080
harping on one thing but I think one

2995
02:23:20,430 --> 02:23:17,080
distinct possibility is if we did open

2996
02:23:23,011 --> 02:23:20,440
up the what appears to be an archiver

2997
02:23:26,780 --> 02:23:23,021
chamber under the Sphinx under the paws

2998
02:23:31,740 --> 02:23:26,790
of the Sphinx if it really does contain

2999
02:23:36,030 --> 02:23:31,750
records or technology or information I

3000
02:23:41,461 --> 02:23:36,040
mean that could tip the scale if we find

3001
02:23:45,030 --> 02:23:41,471
more Quebec leaked a pay type situations

3002
02:23:47,910 --> 02:23:45,040
right that could start tipping the scale

3003
02:23:51,030 --> 02:23:47,920
right now with the Sphinx and gobekli

3004
02:23:53,671 --> 02:23:51,040
tepe that conventional academics are

3005
02:23:56,160 --> 02:23:53,681
trying to sweep it under the rug as much

3006
02:23:58,261 --> 02:23:56,170
as possible oh you know it's just one

3007
02:24:00,660 --> 02:23:58,271
side it doesn't mean that much I mean

3008
02:24:02,400 --> 02:24:00,670
that's effectively what they say oh this

3009
02:24:04,530 --> 02:24:02,410
Fink's willing you know this Fink's is

3010
02:24:10,020 --> 02:24:04,540
the Sphinx and they sort of try to

3011
02:24:11,551 --> 02:24:10,030
dismiss it Scott just posted up in in

3012
02:24:13,890 --> 02:24:11,561
Twitter I think one of the best

3013
02:24:19,200 --> 02:24:13,900
questions that we have to ask today

3014
02:24:21,690 --> 02:24:19,210
which is this are we 100% sure the

3015
02:24:24,330 --> 02:24:21,700
Egyptians built these structures

3016
02:24:27,440 --> 02:24:24,340
oh well that that's something that comes

3017
02:24:33,421 --> 02:24:30,360
Egyptians it depends on how you define

3018
02:24:36,360 --> 02:24:33,431
Egyptians something that the Egyptian

3019
02:24:38,551 --> 02:24:36,370
authorities have accused me of Hamas in

3020
02:24:42,930 --> 02:24:38,561
particular is stealing a gypped history

3021
02:24:44,940 --> 02:24:42,940
from the Egyptians and I don't know who

3022
02:24:46,950 --> 02:24:44,950
built this face or carved the Sphinx

3023
02:24:49,980 --> 02:24:46,960
technically it's carved from bedrock I

3024
02:24:52,501 --> 02:24:49,990
don't know who is responsible for those

3025
02:24:54,480 --> 02:24:52,511
early structures they occur and what is

3026
02:24:57,600 --> 02:24:54,490
now Egypt so I refer to

3027
02:24:59,850 --> 02:24:57,610
miss Egyptians but who where they really

3028
02:25:03,060 --> 02:24:59,860
did they come from somewhere else and

3029
02:25:05,280 --> 02:25:03,070
invade the territory and carve them and

3030
02:25:07,590 --> 02:25:05,290
build the Sphinx is some kind of

3031
02:25:09,180 --> 02:25:07,600
monument where the indigenous I don't

3032
02:25:11,340 --> 02:25:09,190
know well it's the same thing with

3033
02:25:13,800 --> 02:25:11,350
gobekli tepe göbekli tepe is it yeah

3034
02:25:15,870 --> 02:25:13,810
exactly the same thing he's not English

3035
02:25:18,150 --> 02:25:15,880
it's not we don't know they'd been

3036
02:25:21,510 --> 02:25:18,160
living there for thousands of years or

3037
02:25:24,450 --> 02:25:21,520
they were some group that came in and

3038
02:25:30,180 --> 02:25:24,460
you know I know who I don't I know who

3039
02:25:32,030 --> 02:25:30,190
built Gobekli Tepe who the Cardassians

3040
02:25:36,540 --> 02:25:32,040
[Applause]

3041
02:25:38,190 --> 02:25:36,550
it's it's Armenian oh yeah its Armenian

3042
02:25:40,890 --> 02:25:38,200
I didn't you and I have talked about

3043
02:25:41,940 --> 02:25:40,900
that yes it's Armenian yeah I see where

3044
02:25:47,130 --> 02:25:41,950
you're coming from

3045
02:25:51,030 --> 02:25:47,140
I was thinking of the handbags if you

3046
02:25:54,480 --> 02:25:51,040
look really close the Kardashian K is on

3047
02:26:00,530 --> 02:25:54,490
the T pillar belts okay you can laugh

3048
02:26:07,170 --> 02:26:05,430
oh but Robert thank you so much and you

3049
02:26:10,650 --> 02:26:07,180
know our conversations here are always

3050
02:26:13,710 --> 02:26:10,660
the best and and please continue to do

3051
02:26:15,719 --> 02:26:13,720
everything now really quick and and of

3052
02:26:18,740 --> 02:26:15,729
course Kati is your right hand

3053
02:26:21,390 --> 02:26:18,750
she's just you just updated the website

3054
02:26:23,400 --> 02:26:21,400
steer everybody there for me what can

3055
02:26:28,110 --> 02:26:23,410
all everyone should go to the website

3056
02:26:32,070 --> 02:26:28,120
it's w w Robert Schoch and Chaka spelled

3057
02:26:35,370 --> 02:26:32,080
SCH och so W W Robert Schoch all one

3058
02:26:36,150 --> 02:26:35,380
word.com and a couple of things about it

3059
02:26:39,690 --> 02:26:36,160
Katie

3060
02:26:42,300 --> 02:26:39,700
my wife just redid the website so it has

3061
02:26:45,600 --> 02:26:42,310
a whole new look a whole new feel it's

3062
02:26:48,300 --> 02:26:45,610
now mobile device friendly if you people

3063
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went to it in the past they might not

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even recognize it because there's a

3065
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whole new color scheme and everything

3066
02:26:54,930 --> 02:26:54,550
and I'm very proud of what she did with

3067
02:26:57,750 --> 02:26:54,940
it

3068
02:26:59,820 --> 02:26:57,760
secondly if people would like to travel

3069
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with me I've got a couple of Tours

3070
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posted to Ireland and Croatia right now

3071
02:27:07,170 --> 02:27:04,990
and look into doing something again in

3072
02:27:10,590 --> 02:27:07,180
Egypt and Turkey

3073
02:27:13,019 --> 02:27:10,600
also I mentioned an article about method

3074
02:27:16,620 --> 02:27:13,029
and the archive and the hieroglyphic

3075
02:27:18,660 --> 02:27:16,630
inscription people can go to the website

3076
02:27:22,019 --> 02:27:18,670
they can find that article it can be

3077
02:27:24,809 --> 02:27:22,029
downloaded as a PDF so it's free for

3078
02:27:26,849 --> 02:27:24,819
everyone to read and look at there's

3079
02:27:29,670 --> 02:27:26,859
links to origins of the Sphinx with

3080
02:27:32,340 --> 02:27:29,680
Robert Bauval there's links to forgotten

3081
02:27:34,650 --> 02:27:32,350
civilization the role solar outbursts in

3082
02:27:36,510 --> 02:27:34,660
our past and future the other book we

3083
02:27:39,150 --> 02:27:36,520
were talking about so I encourage

3084
02:27:41,189 --> 02:27:39,160
everyone to go explore the website so

3085
02:27:43,679 --> 02:27:41,199
solar outburst is there forgotten

3086
02:27:48,179 --> 02:27:43,689
civilization they can find that and also

3087
02:27:50,429 --> 02:27:48,189
of course things and other books are

3088
02:27:53,010 --> 02:27:50,439
printed yeah thank you so much thank you

3089
02:27:54,780 --> 02:27:53,020
so much now the next time we bring you

3090
02:27:58,380 --> 02:27:54,790
on we're gonna bring you on with jaws

3091
02:28:00,599 --> 02:27:58,390
and and we're gonna throw okay do my

3092
02:28:03,330 --> 02:28:00,609
best to Katie Robert and and be safe

3093
02:28:06,360 --> 02:28:03,340
literally thank you so much thank you

3094
02:28:08,820 --> 02:28:06,370
the best Robert Schoch I'm gonna take a

3095
02:28:11,219 --> 02:28:08,830
break right here everybody go visit

3096
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Robert Schoch on the links are at Jimmy

3097
02:28:14,340 --> 02:28:12,340
Church radio.com

3098
02:28:16,200 --> 02:28:14,350
this book I'm holding it up for the

3099
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cameras one more time origins of the

3100
02:28:22,260 --> 02:28:19,630
Sphinx is absolutely amazing co-authored

3101
02:28:25,200 --> 02:28:22,270
with Robert Bauval and will talk more

3102
02:28:26,700 --> 02:28:25,210
about this book when we have a Robert

3103
02:28:29,340 --> 02:28:26,710
Bauval on the show in a couple of weeks

3104
02:28:31,080 --> 02:28:29,350
I'll take a quick break right here again

3105
02:28:33,599 --> 02:28:31,090
thank you dr. Robert Schoch

3106
02:28:34,950 --> 02:28:33,609
always a great conversation I'll be

3107
02:28:37,080 --> 02:28:34,960
right back stay with us

3108
02:28:37,480 --> 02:28:37,090
I'm gonna open up the phone lines let's

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hey can we talk about something serious

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for a minute your age getting old has

3160
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its perks but remember being a few years

3161
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younger you know your hair was thicker

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you didn't have so many wrinkles that

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extra weight wasn't haunting you and you

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just felt better well we can't turn back

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the clocks and go back 10 or 15 years

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or 15 years younger with nature's youth

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RSF it's a doctor formulated daily

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better and feeling better

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see how nature's youth RSF has helped

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thousands of people just like you at

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will feel when your family and friends

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are asking you what you did to look so

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good your secret will be nature's youth

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RSF it's time to start looking better

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and feeling better learn more in order

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it's not a lifestyle we chose we were

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born this way k GRA radio.com this is tr

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she research radio John yeah well this

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concludes another episode of fade to

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black

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I do want to thank dr. Robert Schoch all

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you have to do is go and click on the

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links at Jimmy Church radio.com and they

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are right there his new website is

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absolutely beautiful

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and all of his books are there his

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articles are there go and check it out

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tomorrow night right here Stephen Alton

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is going to be here we're going to talk

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about his new book undisclosed fade to

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black cigs ecute a-- producer is Rita

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Kumari on show is produced by Hilton Jay

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Paul mark T Kovar thank you l j3 Rene

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Jonas Thank You Dennis thank you Bob

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announcers our Steve Hart or G Bhutto a

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Drew the geek music doug aldrich intro

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space boys space boy music.com fade to

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black is produced by kjsurya productions

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game-changer network our meals Jimmy

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Church follow me on Twitter at Jay

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Church radio I'll see everybody tomorrow

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night right here

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but until then be safe go back li tappy

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